Model: LG GSA-4167B 16x "Super-Multi" DVD±RW/RAM
Manufacturer: LG Electronics
Provided By: LG Electronics USA
LG Electronics has been a leader in the electronics industry for more than 40 years. Since the introduction of their first radio in 1959, this Korean company has grown to become one of the world's top electronics manufacturers. While best known for their consumer products, LG is no stranger to the optical storage industry. They've lead the way in this area, developing and manufacturing a wide range of products, including the industry's first "Super-Multi" drives.
Since the introduction of their first "Super-Multi" drive, LG has continued to raise the bar, developing drives with new features and faster reading and writing speeds. The GSA-4167B is the latest addition to LG's family of "Super-Multi" drives. Announced this fall, the GSA-4167B is capable of 16x DVD±R, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 6x DVD+R DL and 4x DVD-R DL writing speeds as well as a maximum DVD read speed of 16x. On top of that, it can read and write to DVD-RAM media at 5x, the fastest speed currently available.The GSA-4167B also includes features like 48x CD reading and writing speeds, 32x rewriting speeds, Super Link buffer underrun protection and an impressive software bundle from Nero and CyberLink.
With features and specs like this, it's hard not to be impressed by LG's new "Super-Multi" drive. To give you an idea of what to expect from the GSA-4167B we'll take a look at its features and then see how it compares to some of the 16x DVD±RW drives from the competition. Does LG's new drive have what it takes? Is it the best bang for your buck? Read on to see what we had to say.
What's in the box?:
- LG GSA-4167B "Super-Multi" DVD±RW/RAM Drive
- DVD Writer Solution CD
- Quick Set-Up Guide
- Audio Cable
- Mounting Screws
- IDE Cable
- Warranty Information
Physical Features:
The drive that LG sent us for this review was manufactured in August of 2005 and had firmware version DL10. For this review the drive's firmware has been updated to version DL12.
As you can see, LG has given the GSA-4167B a slight makeover. They've made a few changes to the bezel, including a redesigned eject button. More notably, the gray stripe found on LG's previous "Super-Multi" drives has been removed. The GSA-4167B still has its share of logos though. Along with the large "LG" logo, you can see a few showing support for Ultra Speed CD-RW media, as well as DVD+ReWritable and DVD Multi specifications.
Below the tray you can see the GSA-4167B's single LED. Itlights up green when the drive is reading or writing.
The rear of the GSA-4167B doesn't bring any surprises. By looking at the picture below you can see the drive's IDE interface, power connector and audio output connectors.
Starting from the left of the IDE connection you'll see the jumper switch for master, slave and cable select. By default the drive's jumper position is set to master. Next to the jumper block is the analog audio connector. The connector on the far left is the digital audio output.
Technical Specs:
Most of the specs below have been taken from LG's website and the guide that came with the drive.
LG GSA-4167B DVD±RW/RAM | |
CD Write Speeds | 48x, 40x, 32x, 24x, (Z-CLV) 16x, 8x, 4x (CLV) |
CD Rewrite Speeds | 32x, 24x (Z-CLV) 16x, 10x, 4x (CLV) |
DVD+R Write Speeds | 16x, 12x (P-CAV) 8x (Z-CLV) 4x, 2.4x (CLV) |
DVD+RW Write Speeds | 8x (Z-CLV) 4x, 2.4x (CLV) |
DVD-R Write Speeds | 16x (P-CAV) 8x (Z-CLV) 4x, 2x (CLV) |
DVD-RW Write Speeds | 6x, 4x, 2x, 1x (CLV) |
DVD+R DL Write Speeds | 8x*, 6x (Z-CLV) 4x, 2.4x (CLV) |
DVD-R DL Write Speeds | 4x, 2x (CLV) |
DVD-RAM Write Speeds | 5x (P-CAV) 3x, 2x (CLV) |
CD Read Speeds | 48x Max (CD-ROM/CD-R) 40x Max (CD-RW) |
DAE Speed | 40x Max |
DVD Read Speeds | 16x Max (DVD-ROM Single Layer) 12x Max (DVD-ROM Dual Layer) 10x Max (DVD±R) 8x Max (DVD±RW) 8x Max (DVD+R DL) 8x Max (DVD-Video) 5x, 3x, 2x (DVD-RAM) |
Buffer Size | 2MB |
Access Times |
125 ms (CD-ROM) 145 ms (DVD-ROM) 175 ms (DVD-RAM) |
CD Formats | CD-Audio CD-ROM CD-ROM/XA CD-R CD-RW Photo CD Video CD CD-Extra CD-I CD-Text |
DVD Formats | DVD-ROM DVD-R/RW DVD+R/RW DVD+R DL DVD-R DL DVD-RAM |
CD Recording Modes | Disc At Once Session At Once Track At Once Packet Writing |
DVD-R/RW Recording Modes |
Disc At Once Incremental Recording Restricted Overwrite |
DVD+R Recording Modes |
Sequential Recording |
DVD+RW and DVD-RAM Recording Modes |
Random Write |
DVD+R/-R DL Recording Modes |
Sequential Recording |
More Features:
By looking at the picture below, you can see that LG's new DVD writer is identified as an "HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B".
The Nero screenshot also shows that the GSA-4167B has a maximum CD writing speed of 48x and a 2048KB buffer. This buffer is also backed up by some form of buffer underrun protection. In this case, the technology used is "Super Link." According to Nero, LG's new DVD writer can also write CD-Text and overburn. When testing the drive's capacity I found that the drive was able to overburn up to 95:10with CompUSA's 99 minute CD-R media.
Like LG's previous "Super-Multi" drives, the GSA-4167B can do EFM encoding correctly. Using CloneCD version 4.2.0.2 with AWS disabled, Iwas able to reproduce older SafeDisc 2 protected titles like Max Payne along with some of the newer ones protected by SafeDisc 2.51 like Serious Sam: The Second Encounter.
Here is a screen shot from Nero's InfoTool. This program queries the drive to see what its reading and writing capabilities are. InfoTool had no problems detecting the GSA-4167B's maximum reading and writing speeds, recording modes, buffer underrun protection and 2MB buffer.
InfoTool also shows that the GSA-4167B is a RPC-2 DVD drive. This means that the drive's region is stored in the firmware. The drive's region can be changed five times and after that it cannot be changed anymore. A patched RPC-1 firmware can be downloaded here. Just keep in mind that it is not supported by LG nor by CDRLabs. Use it at your own risk.
While InfoTool gives us a quick glance at the GSA-4167B's features, DVDINFOpro provides a little more information on some of the drive's reading and writing capabilities. By looking at the screenshot above you can see that while LG's new drive can read and write to DVD+R DL, DVD-R DL and DVD-RAM media, it does not support the Mt. Rainier format.
The GSA-4167B also supports a feature called "bitsetting." Using programs like Nero or CD Speed, you can set the book type of both DVD+R and DVD+R DL media to "DVD-ROM". For whatever reason though, the drive does not let you set the book type of DVD+RW discs.
The GSA-4167B's software bundle is very similar to what LG has included with their previous DVD writers. The CD that comes with the drive contains a number of different applications including Nero Express 6 and InCD 4 as well as PowerProducer 2 Gold and PowerDVD 5 from CyberLink.
Nero Express 6 - With Nero Express, Nero has taken the features and performance people have come to expect from Nero Burning Rom and combined them with a user friendly interface. While the interface has been simplified, Nero Express still supports more advanced features like VCD and DVD creation, CD/DVD duplication, overburning, CD-Text and realtime audio filters.
The version of Nero Express that LG included with their new DVD±RW drive is 6.6.0.9. You can download the latest version of the software from Nero's website.
Nero BackItUp - If you're looking for a way to quickly and easily backup your data, Nero BackItUp is the answer. This new program from Ahead Software lets you backup your data to CD/DVD, hard disc, image recorderor another computer on your LAN.
InCD 4 - InCD is Nero's packet writing software. Like Roxio's Drag-to-Disc or Sonic's DLA, it allows a person to use their CD-RW drive as a big floppy disk. The person can then drag and drop files onto a CD-RW or DVD±RW disc. Many people consider InCD to be one of the best packet writing tools because of its simplicity and performance.
CyberLink PowerProducer 2 Gold - If you're looking for a quick and easy way to capture and edit your video, look no further than PowerProducer 2 Gold from CyberLink. Right from the start, this wizard based software gives you a number of options to select from. From here you can choose to create a new movie disc, edit an existing one or record video directly to DVD.
PowerProducer lets you create a number of different movie discs. Looking at the menu below, you can choose to create a DVD, VCD, or SVCD. If your drive supports DVD-VR or DVD+VR, you can also create an editable DVD.
While you can capture your own video, PowerProducer will also let you add any MPEG-1, MPEG-2, AVI or DivX video clip to your project. Once you have them imported, you can use the built in editor to trim, merge or split your video clips or add special effects. PowerProducer also allows you to set chapters within the video content and add your own custom menus, backgrounds, fonts and titles.
CyberLink PowerDVD 5 - CyberLink's PowerDVD is one of the more popular software DVD players on the market right now. PowerDVD offers a complete set of navigation commands, including advanced features like multi-angle viewing, dual subtitle display, digital zoom and parental controls.This new version also adds features like DivX playback, audio time stretch and support for CyberLink's new Eagle Vision technology.
Unfortunately, the version of PowerDVD bundled with the GSA-4167B only supports 2 speaker output. If you want to take advantage of DVD's encoded with DTS or use Dolby Pro Logic II, you'll need to buy one of CyberLink's audio packs.
Like LG's previous "Super-Multi" drives, the GSA-4167B definitely isn't short on features. Along with support for all major DVD formats, it sports some pretty impressive specs. The GSA-4167B is capable of 16x DVD±R, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 6x DVD+R DL, 4x DVD-R DL writing speeds and a maximum DVD read speed of 16x. On top of that, it can read and write DVD-RAM media at 5x. LG's new drive also includes features like a 2MB buffer, Super Link buffer underrun protection and a software bundle from Nero and Cyberlink. Unfortunately, it lacks bitsetting support for DVD+RW media. Even then, the LG GSA-4167B scores a 9 out of 10 for its features.
Like the other LG drives we've reviewed, the GSA-4167B was very easy to install. From start to finish, the entire process took only a few minutes. After taking the drive out of the box, I left the jumper set to master and installed it on the secondary IDE chain of our test computer by connecting the IDE cable and power connector. When I turned on the computer the BIOS detected it as a drive supporting UDMA 66. After making sure that the DMA was enabled in the Device Manager, I was ready to start installing the software.
Software Installation:
As I mentioned earlier, LG's new DVD writer comes with a CD full of software from CyberLink and Nero. If you have autorun enabled, the menu pictured below will automatically come up when you insert the disc.
You can view information on the different applications in the software bundle by clicking on the menu buttons. Otherwise, you can start the setup process by clicking the "Install" button. After picking your language of choice, you'll be presented with a number of installation options.
From here you can choose to install PowerProducer, PowerDVD, Nero Express, InCD or the Acrobat Reader. After clicking next a few times and waiting for the files to be copied over, you'll be able to start burning your own CD's and DVD's. And no, you don't need to install a special driver if you want to write to DVD-RAM discs. InCD 4 supports all rewritable DVD formats, including DVD-RAM.
The Documentation:
The bulk of the GSA-4167B's documentation is located on the software CD in electronic format. While LG has gone out of their way to provide a nice interface, the documentation is still in PDF format and will require you to install Adobe Acrobat before you can read them.
Electronic format aside, the manual is a good example of what we've come to expect from LG. It starts out by going over the functions of the various buttons and connectors located on the front and back of the GSA-4167B.While the diagrams are small, they are clearly labeled and easy to understand. From here, the manual jumps into the physical installation of the drive. The instructions cover all the basics including how to set the jumpers, install the drive into an empty drive bay and hook up the cables. LG also provides a number of small diagrams showing what exactly a master or slave configuration should look like. The manual finishes up by going over the basic operation of the GSA-4167B. It explains how to insert and eject DVD's and how to get a disc out of the drive in case of an emergency.
The GSA-4167B also comes with a "Quick Set-Up Guide." Like the manual, this fold out guide contains a good amount of information, including the drive's features, specs and system requirements. The guide also contains a set of instructions that take you step by step through the installation process. While a little short on words, there are plenty of diagrams showing what to do. For most people, the "Quick Set-Up Guide" will be all they'll need to get the drive up and running.
In the end, installing the GSA-4167B was very easy. I had no problems getting the drive or the software installed and working. If you need help for some reason, the documentation LG has provided is pretty good, even though most of it is in electronic format. Overall, I give the installation a 9 out of a possible 10.
While CPU, memory, OS and other variables don't often make a huge difference, there are some nonetheless. We have a computer that is used only for testing hardware. We do this so all tests can be compared reliably.
Test System:
CPU: | AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz | |
Motherboard: | ASUS K8V SE Deluxe with BIOS 1003 | |
Memory: | 2 x 256MB Kingston PC3200 | |
Video Card: | XFX NVIDIA GeForce FX5200 - ForceWare v56.72 | |
Hard Drive: | Hitachi Deskstar 7K80 80GB SATA 7200RPM | |
Operating System: | Windows XP SP1 - VIA Hyperion 4in1 v4.51 |
For DVD writers the performance tests are broken down into four sections: CD read, CD write, DVD read and DVD write tests. Each benchmark test has been run three times. The score given is an average of the three. DMA has been enabled in device manager for all IDE devices supporting it.
CD Read Tests: For the read performance section of the CD-ROM benchmarks, CD WinBench 99 v3.0 and CD Speed v4.10 are used to test read speeds, seek times and CPU usage. For DAE testing both CD Speed and CD DAE are used. CD Speed is used to give an overall DAE speed rating and CD DAE is used to give the track by track extraction speeds and to check the extracted tracks for errors the drive may have created.
CD Write Tests: To test the write speeds, Nero Burning Rom is used to write 650MB and 700MB to our test media. Times are recorded. To test rewrite scores, Nero is used again to time how long it takes to write 400MB of random files and directories. Then Sonic's DLA is used to test packet writing speeds. The same files are copied and pasted in Windows Explorer and timed.
DVD Read Tests: For the read performance section of the DVD benchmarks CD Speed v4.10 is used to test read speeds, seek times, and CPU usage.
DVD Write Tests: To test the DVD write speeds, Nero Burning Rom is used to write 4GB to our test media. Times are recorded. Then Sonic's DLA is used to test packet writing speeds. The same files are copied and pasted in Windows Explorer and timed.
CD Winbench 99 Scores:
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
|
CD Winbench 99 | 1213 KB/sec | 1448 KB/sec | 1798 KB/sec | 2065 KB/sec |
Transfer Rate: Inside | 3210 KB/sec | 2853 KB/sec | 3215 KB/sec | 3140 KB/sec |
Transfer Rate: Outside | 6373 KB/sec | 6530 KB/sec | 6373 KB/sec | 6360 KB/sec |
Random Access Time | 102ms | 117ms | 116ms | 96ms |
CPU Utilization | 0.24% | 0.25% | 0.24% | 0.31% |
The CD Winbench test is as close as we can get to testing every day usage. It fires off eight different applications using scripts. This tries to mimic the activities of a person loading these programs onto their own computer.
LG's new "Super-Multi" drive did pretty well in the CD Winbench portion of our tests. While the GSA-4167B's overall score wasn't as high as some of the other drives, its transfer rates were fairly good. The drive started reading at 21.4x (3210 / 150) and reached a maximum speed of about 42.5x (6373 / 150) on the outside.
CD Speed v4.10 - Pressed CD:
For this test I used a pressed CD containing one Mode 1 data track. The disc is 74:38 in size and is full of data and directories.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
|
Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
35.63x 20.45x 47.28x |
36.39x 20.64x 48.13x |
35.60x 20.56x 47.07x |
35.46x 20.50x 46.90x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
114ms 126ms 183ms |
106ms 123ms 176ms |
125ms 137ms 213ms |
102ms 120ms 172ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: 8x: |
1% 1% 3% 36% |
1% 1% 3% 6% |
0% 1% 3% 6% |
0% 1% 2% 3% |
LG's new writer didn't perform as well as I had expected when reading pressed CD's. While the drive is rated at 48x, the GSA-4167B came up a little short of this number in our tests. For whatever reason, its CPU usage was also quite high when reading at 8x.
CD Speed v4.10 - CD-R Media:
For this test I made a copy of our pressed test CD. I used 12x rated Memorex Gold 74 minute media for the tests.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
|
Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
36.39x 20.72x 47.99x |
37.23x 20.92x 49.46x |
36.29x 20.73x 48.06x |
36.24x 20.73x 48.03x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
115ms 127ms 183ms |
109ms 123ms 181ms |
142ms 157ms 237ms |
105ms 130ms 191ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: 8x: |
1% 1% 3% 36% |
1% 1% 3% 6% |
0% 1% 3% 6% |
0% 1% 2% 4% |
LG's new writer did a little better here. While the GSA-4167B still wasn't able to reach 48x in our tests, its transfer speeds were faster than what we saw with pressed media.
The GSA-4167B had no problems recognizing our 99 minute CompUSA media. The drive read our test disc from start to finish, reaching a maximum transfer speed of 49.59x.
CD Speed v4.10 - CD-RW Media:
For this test I made a copy of a pressed test CD. I used some PNY 80 minute CD-RW media for the tests.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
|
Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
30.63x 17.47x 40.20x |
30.74x 17.58x 40.58x |
30.79x 17.92x 40.12x |
31.53x 18.32x 41.64x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
111ms 128ms 202ms |
107ms 120ms 172ms |
128ms 138ms 217ms |
101ms 118ms 174ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: 8x: |
1% 1% 3% 25% |
1% 1% 3% 6% |
0% 1% 3% 5% |
0% 1% 2% 4% |
While the GSA-4167B can read pressed and CD-R media at speeds as high as 48x, its CD-RW read speeds are limited to 40x. As you can see, it had no problem reaching this speed in our tests.
CD DAE and CD Speed v4.10 - Pressed CD:
For this test I used Pure Funk. The CD is almost exactly 74 minutes. This helps to squeeze the maximum performance out of the CD.
Exact Audio Copy can tell us a lot about a drive's capabilities. You can see from the screen shot that while the LG GSA-4167B supports accurate stream and has the ability to retrieve C2 error information from the CD, it does not cache audio data.
CD Speed | LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
Average: Start: End: DAE Quality: Accurate Stream: |
30.81x 17.50x 40.79x 10 Yes |
36.76x 20.90x 48.59x 10 Yes |
30.92x 17.99x 40.11x 10 Yes |
31.45x 18.20x 41.55x 10 Yes |
The GSA-4167B did pretty well in our DAE tests. While not nearly as fast as the drive from Sony, it hadno problems reading pressed audio CD's at 40x.
To get a better look at the quality of the extracted audio we use CD DAE. CD DAE is actually designed to be an audio ripping program. It converts the CD-DA on the CD to .wav files. We use it in our testing because it can also be used as a quick and easy way to test the quality. Where CD Speed tests the DAE as one large session, CD DAE extracts each CD track individually. It actually extracts each track twice and then compares them to check for any errors. Every error a drive creates could be a hiss or pop you would hear later in the audio tracks.
CD DAE | LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
Average: Min: Max: |
29.2x 18.5x 39.8x |
34.3x 22.0x 47.1x |
29.3x 18.7x 39.6x |
29.6x 18.6x 40.2x |
Errors | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
While the GSA-4167B started out a little faster when extracting our test CD with CD DAE, its average and maximum speeds were slower than what we saw with CD Speed.
CD DAE and CD Speed v4.10 - CD-R Media:
For this test I used a copy of the Pure Funk CD. It's burned onto the same Memorex Gold 74 minute media I used in the CD Speed tests.
CD Speed | LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
Average: Start: End: DAE Quality: Accurate Stream: |
30.53x 17.39x 40.35x 10 Yes |
36.41x 20.91x 47.99x 10 Yes |
30.66x 17.93x 40.12x 10 Yes |
31.50x 18.32x 41.64x 10 Yes |
While the GSA-4167B was a little slower when extracting audio from CD-R media, this didn't keep it from reaching amaximum DAE speed of 40x in our tests. So how did it do in CD Speed's advanced DAE tests? Take a look below.
LG's new DVD writer completed CD Speed's advanced DAE tests with an average score of 29.06x. The drive had no problems passing all of the on-the-fly tests and did not create any errors. If you look at the advanced features, you can see that the GSA-4167B was able to read the CD-Text, subchannel data and even the lead in and lead out sections of the CD.
CD DAE | LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
Average: Min: Max: |
28.9x 18.4x 39.2x |
34.0x 22.0x 46.5x |
29.1x 18.6x 39.5x |
29.9x 19.1x 40.8x |
Errors | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
To see how well LG's "Super-Multi" drive can read scratched and dirty discs, I used CD Speed's ScanDisc utility to see how many sectors were damaged or unreadable. This is a very rough, but good way to test the drive's error correcting abilities.
CD Speed - ScanDisc
The GSA-4167B didn't handle scratched discs as well as some of the other DVD writers we've looked at. While there weren't any unreadable sectors on the disc, the drive considered more than 80% of the CD to be "damaged."
You can also get an idea of how well the drive can read scratched and dirty discs by using CD DAE. CD DAE will extract the audio tracks twice and then compare them. From this information we can see what the drive's average speed was and how many errors it generated.
CD DAE | Avg. Speed | Errors | % of Disc |
LG GSA-4167B |
28.5x | 4844005 | 0.62% |
Sony DRU-810A |
5.9x | 5452039 | 0.70% |
Plextor PX-716A |
23.2x | 57330566 | 7.31% |
LG's new DVD writer did much better this time around. As you can see, the scratches on the disc had little effect on the drive's speed and the number of errors remained relatively low.
CD Write and ReWrite Tests - Nero Burning Rom 6.6.0.16 andDLA 4.95:
For this test I randomly generated 650MB and 700MB of files and directories to test the time it takes the drive to write and close a CD. All of the files are between 1MB and 25MB in size and no more than 10 directories deep. All of the times below include not only the actual writing time, but the lead in and out times too. This gives a more realistic idea of how long it takes to write a CD.
LG's new "Super-Multi" drive uses Z-CLV, or Zone CLV, to reach its maximum writing speed. By looking at the screenshot above, you can see that it uses a total of five "zones" to reach 48x. The GSA-4167B starts writing at 16x and quickly jumps to 24x at the 4 minute mark. When it reaches the 21 minute mark, the drive changes to 32x and then to 40x at the 43 minute mark.The drive writes at this speed until about the 68 minute mark. When it reaches this point, its writing speed increases to 48x and stays there until the end of the session. This gave the GSA-4167B an average writing speed of about 33.77x.
To test the GSA-4167B's writing times, I wrote our test data to some Taiyo Yuden manufactured Fujimedia rated at 48x. The results are below.
Size in MB | Size in Time | LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
651MB | 74:02:55 | 2:58 | 2:40 | 2:51 | 2:38 |
701MB | 79:44:21 | 3:03 | 2:50 | 2:59 | 2:44 |
With its Z-CLV writing method, the GSA-4167B wasn't as fast as some of the other DVD writers we've looked at. Nevertheless, it was able to write an entire 650MB CD in 2:58.
To test the drive's writing quality I used Lite-On IT's KProbe2. Written by Karr Wang, this utility can be used to test the number of C1 and C2 errors on a disc. For these tests I used a Lite-On LTR-52246S (firmware 6S0F) and read the discs at 32x.
The GSA-4167B's writing quality was very good. By looking at the KProbe screenshots, you can see that the discs burned by the drive had a low number of C1 errors and there were no C2 errors at all.
For the rewriting tests I created 400MB of files on the hard drive and wrote them in DAO mode using Nero. To test the packet writing speeds I copied and pasted the same files off the hard drive onto a CD-RW disc using DLA from Sonic. Verbatim's 32x Ultra Speed CD-RW media was used for these tests.
LG's new drive also uses Z-CLV when rewriting at 32x. By looking at the screenshot above, you can see that it starts writing at 16x and jumps to 24x at about the 4 minute mark. The drive writes at this speed until about the 21 minute mark. At this point, the writing speed increases to 32x and stays there until the very end of the session.
Software | LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
Nero | 2:09 | 1:58 | 2:05 | 2:21 |
DLA Write | 2:07 | 1:52 | 2:05 | 2:25 |
DLA Read | 1:13 | 1:12 | 1:15 | 2:24 |
LG's new DVD writer did very well in our rewriting tests. Thanks to its 32x rewriting speed, the GSA-4167B took 2:09 to write 400MB with Nero and 2:07 to do the same with DLA.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
|
Quick Erase | 25 seconds | 26 seconds | 33 seconds | 42 seconds |
Full Erase | 3:14 | 3:46 | 3:22 | 3:52 |
The GSA-4167B also erases at 32x. In our tests, it not only had the fastest quick erase time out of the four drives here, it was able to do a full erase in an impressive 3:14.
Nero CD Speed v4.10 - DVD-ROM:
A little editorial note here. Like a CD-ROM, you will get different benchmark results depending on what kind of discs you are using. You are probably going to get varying results from a full data disc to a single layer movie disc. You're also going to get different results for single and dual layer discs.
The CD Speed website recommends using a single layer DVD-ROM disc with a capacity of at least 4GB. If you use a dual layer disc you probably won't get the best results because most DVD-ROM drives slow down to read them. Some even slow down to read single layer DVD-Video discs. To make a long story short, I am using a 4.37GB single layer, single sided disc for this test.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
|
Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
12.34x 6.80x 16.51x |
12.05x 6.56x 16.17x |
11.94x 6.55x 15.97x |
12.07x 6.63x 16.14x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
105ms 121ms 189ms |
100ms 109ms 171ms |
122ms 136ms 221ms |
101ms 111ms 187ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: 8x: |
6% 12% 23% 43% |
6% 12% 24% 47% |
8% 15% 28% 51% |
4% 8% 16% 31% |
The GSA-4167B performed very well when reading single layer DVD-ROM's. In our tests it started reading at 6.80x and reached a maximum transfer speed of 16.51x. Looking at the other scores, you can see that its seek times were also pretty good.
Nero CD Speed v4.10 - DVD-R, DVD-RW and DVD-RAM:
First, we'll look at the drive's DVD-R and DVD-RW reading performance. For this I made copies of our DVD-ROM test disc using some general use 4x DVD-R and 2x DVD-RW media from Verbatim and then ran our usual DVD read tests with CD Speed. For the DVD-RAM tests, media from Maxell was used. The results are below.
Verbatim DVD-R
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
7.71x 4.27x 10.31x |
12.08x 6.59x 16.16x |
12.00x 6.61x 16.04x |
9.04x 4.99x 12.09x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
99ms 119ms 177ms |
106ms 123ms 178ms |
122ms 148ms 244ms |
101ms 112ms 178ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: 8x: |
6% 13% 23% 43% |
7% 12% 24% 51% |
9% 16% 32% 69% |
4% 8% 15% 30% |
Verbatim DVD-RW
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
6.17x 3.41x 8.25x |
9.36x 5.11x 12.54x |
9.84x 5.41x 13.16x |
9.06x 4.98x 12.12x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
118ms 144ms 213ms |
108ms 124ms 173ms |
121ms 151ms 254ms |
101ms 114ms 197ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: 8x: |
6% 11% 22% 42% |
6% 12% 24% 47% |
8% 15% 28% 51% |
5% 8% 15% 30% |
Verbatim DVD-R DL
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
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Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
6.19x 3.44x 8.26x |
9.05x 5.01x 12.07x |
5.46x 3.03x 7.25x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
127ms 152ms 220ms |
117ms 137ms 174ms |
174ms 191ms 275ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: |
7% 13% n/a |
6% 12% 24% |
7% 12% n/a |
The GSA-4167B had no problems reading DVD-R, DVD-RW and DVD-R DL media. In our tests, it was able to read DVD-R discs at a respectable 10x, but slowed to about 8x when reading DVD-RW and DVD-R DL media.
Maxell 5x DVD-RAM
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Average | Start | End | Random | 1/3 | Full | 1x | 2x | 4x | |
LG GSA-4167B |
4.67x | 3.02x | 5.04x | 141ms | 145ms | 194ms | 21% | 32% | 53% |
LG's new drive has a maximum transfer speed of 5x when reading DVD-RAM discs. By looking at the screenshot you can see that it starts reading at about 3x and accelerates, reaching 5x at the 1.6GB mark.
Nero CD Speed v4.10 - DVD+R and DVD+RW:
Next we'll look at the drive's DVD+R and DVD+RW reading performance. For this I made a copy of our DVD-ROM test disc using some 4x DVD+R and 2.4x DVD+RW media from Verbatim. I then ran our usual DVD read tests with CD Speed. The results are below.
Verbatim DVD+R
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
7.72x 4.25x 10.32x |
12.10x 6.60x 16.18x |
11.96x 6.58x 16.00x |
9.04x 4.98x 12.09x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
97ms 121ms 186ms |
106ms 121ms 183ms |
131ms 156ms 255ms |
101ms 110ms 194ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: 8x: |
6% 12% 23% 42% |
6% 12% 24% 49% |
11% 16% 30% 68% |
5% 8% 15% 30% |
Verbatim DVD+RW
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
6.18x 3.42x 8.26x |
9.36x 5.10x 12.50x |
9.83x 5.41x 13.14x |
9.06x 4.99x 12.11x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
119ms 146ms 212ms |
106ms 121ms 174ms |
121ms 146ms 254ms |
100ms 108ms 193ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: 8x: |
7% 13% 25% 46% |
6% 12% 24% 47% |
15% 27% 55% 97% |
5% 8% 16% 30% |
The GSA-4167B's performance with DVD+R and DVD+RW media was very similar to what we saw with DVD-R and DVD-RW media.The drive read DVD+R discs at 10x and DVD+RW media at 8x.
Verbatim DVD+R DL
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
6.20x 3.44x 8.27x |
9.07x 5.01x 12.09x |
5.46x 3.03x 7.29x |
6.06x 3.35x 8.09x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
123ms 148ms 219ms |
111ms 120ms 173ms |
126ms 165ms 277ms |
101ms 111ms 188ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: |
7% 12% n/a |
7% 13% 26% |
7% 12% n/a |
4% 7% n/a |
Reading Verbatim's double layer DVD+R media wasn't a problem for the GSA-4167B either. While not as fast as the drive from Sony, it reached a respectable 8.27x in CD Speed's transfer rate tests.
Nero CD Speed v4.10 - DVD-Video:
For these tests I am using the US version of Transformers: The Movie on DVD. The disc is over 4GB and single sided.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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Transfer Speed Average: Start: End: |
3.64x 2.01x 4.87x |
11.93x 6.51x 15.95x |
5.91x 3.26x 7.91x |
12.07x 6.63x 16.14x |
Seek Times Random: 1/3: Full: |
117ms 148ms 217ms |
101ms 109ms 171ms |
117ms 129ms 214ms |
103ms 111ms 179ms |
CPU Usage 1x: 2x: 4x: 8x: |
6% 11% 21% n/a |
6% 12% 24% 47% |
7% 13% 24% 87% |
4% 8% 16% 31% |
The GSA-4167B didn't do as well as some of the other drives when reading DVD videos. In our tests, it reached a maximum speed of about 5x when reading both single and dual layer discs.This is pretty slow considering there are drives out there that can reach speeds as high as 16x.
To see how well the GSA-4167B worked as a DVD player, I watched a few scenes from Transformers: The Movie and Star Wars: The Phantom Menace using WinDVD 4 and PowerDVD 5. The drive had no problems playing back these movies with either program and was fairly quiet.
DVD Write and ReWrite Tests - Nero Burning Rom 6.6.0.16 andDLA 4.95:
To test the DVD writing performance of LG's new drive I used Verbatim 16x DVD+R, 16x DVD-R, 8x DVD+RW and 6x DVD-RW media. To get the writing times, a 4.38GB image was burned to our test discs using Nero.
The GSA-4167B is one of the few drives to use P-CAV, or Partial CAV, when writing to DVD+R and DVD-R media at 16x. By looking at the screenshots above, you can see that LG's new drive starts writing at about 7.2x and accelerates, reaching its maximum speed at about the 3.7GB minute mark.
The GSA-4167B also features 8x DVD+RW and 6x DVD-RW writing speeds. While the drive uses CLV when writing to DVD-RW media, it uses Z-CLV to reach its maximum DVD+RW writing speed.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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DVD+R | 5:31 | 5:52 | 6:05 | 5:59 |
DVD-R | 5:33 | 6:31 | 5:57 | 6:01 |
DVD+RW | 7:20 | 7:42 | 7:19 | 7:35 |
DVD-RW | 9:59 | 10:24 | 10:56 | 14:46 |
LG's new "Super-Multi" drive performed very well in our DVD writing tests. While not as fast as the drive from NEC when writing to DVD+RW media, the GSA-4167B turned in some of the fastest DVD+R, DVD-R and DVD-RW writing times we've seen.
To check the media compatibility of the GSA-4167B, I ran a few tests using some of the media available in my area. The media types, along with the average time it took the drive to write our 4.38GB image, are listed below.
Manufacturer ID | Max Write Speed |
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Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD+R | YUDEN000T02 | 12x | 6:38 |
Fuji 16x DVD+R | PHILIPS C16 | 16x | 5:46 |
Memorex 16x DVD+R | RICOHJPN R03 | 12x | 5:56 |
Optodisc 16x DVD+R | OPTODISCR16 | 16x | 5:40 |
RiDATA 16x DVD+R | RITEKR04 | 16x | 6:13 |
Verbatim 16x DVD+R | MCC-004 | 16x | 5:31 |
Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD-R | TYG02 | 8x | 7:55 |
Daxon 16x DVD-R | DAXON016S | 16x | 5:38 |
Memorex 16x DVD-R | CMC MAG.AM3 | 16x | 5:22 |
Optodisc 16x DVD-R | OPTODISCR016 | 16x | 5:40 |
RiDATA 16x DVD-R | RITEKF1 | 16x | 5:38 |
Verbatim 16x DVD-R | MCC 03RG20 | 16x | 5:33 |
So what about writing quality? Testing a drive's DVD writing quality isn't easy. Until now, there were very few options, unless you wanted to shell out thousands of dollars for a certified test machine. Thanks to KProbe, we can test a disc's PI (Parity Inner) and PIF (Parity Inner Fail) rates.For these tests I used a Lite-On SOHW-1673S (firmware JS07) and read the discs at 4x with the PI and PIF ECC sums set to 8 and 1 respectively. For comparison, I also tested the discs on a BenQ DW1640. When combined with Nero CD Speed, the DW1640 is able to report PI Errors, PI Failures, Parity Outer Failures and even jitter levels. For this test, the discs are read at 8x with both the PI and PIF ECC sums set to 8.
So what are "good" results supposed to look like? With KProbe, the PI errors should not exceed 280 and the number of PIF errors should stay below 4. When testing with CD Speed, the number of PI errors should stay below 280 as well. However, because it scans with an ECC sum of 8, a higher number of PIF errors is acceptable, as long as they do not exceed 32. Since POF errors are uncorrectable, we really don't want to see any of them at all.
I also put these discs through a "stress test" by reading them back at 16x with the DW1640. By reading these discs back at this speed, we can see if there are any readability issues caused by the number of errors or high levels of jitter.
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The GSA-4167B's writing quality varied a lot from one manufacturer to another. Looking at the graphs above, you can see that the media from Taiyo Yuden and Memorex yielded some pretty good results. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case with the discs from Fuji and Optodisc. The PI/PIF rates were not only very high, there were a number of PO Failures that caused some slow downs in the transfer rate tests.
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Lastly, here are some results from our DVD-R test media. As you can see, the writing quality was pretty good with most of the discs we tested. Aside from a few small PI/PIF spikes, the results stayed within acceptable limits.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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DVD+RW Quick | 9 seconds | 13 seconds | 28 seconds | 32 seconds |
DVD+RW Full | 7:23 | 7:43 | 7:20 | 7:46 |
DVD-RW Quick | 34 seconds | 34 seconds | 53 seconds | 1:03 |
DVD-RW Full | 10:05 | 10:23 | 14:39 | 15:09 |
To test the GSA-4167B's packet writing performance I used DLA 4.95. Verbatim 8x DVD+RW and 6x DVD-RW media were used once again.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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DVD+RW Write | 6:31 | 6:48 | 6:27 | 6:33 |
DVD+RW Read | 9:05 | 6:07 | 5:50 | 5:47 |
DVD-RW Write | 8:26 | 8:46 | 9:02 | 12:44 |
DVD-RW Read | 8:40 | 6:11 | 14:52 | 6:05 |
LG's new "Super-Multi" drive performed pretty well in our packet writing tests. The GSA-4167B turned in some very good writing times with both DVD-RW and DVD+RW media, but was not as fast as some of the other drives when reading back our test data.
If you want to use DVD-RAM media with LG's new "Super-Multi" drive, you will need to use a packet writing program like Sonic's DLA or Nero's InCD. As you can see, InCD gives you a number of formats to choose from. For our tests I chose to use UDF 2.0.
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To test the drive's DVD-RAM speeds I copied and pasted the same 4GB of files used in our other DVD packet writing tests.
InCD 4.3.20.1 | DLA 4.95 | |
DVD-RAM Write | 25:51 | 24:15 |
DVD-RAM Read | 15:28 | 11:13 |
While it doesn't look like it, the GSA-4167B is really writing at 5x. When you write data to a DVD-RAM disc, each sector is automatically verified. This verification adds extra time to the recording process. Nevertheless, the GSA-4167B performed very well in our tests. With its 5x reading and writing speeds, it's the drive to get if you need DVD-RAM support.
Double Layer DVD Write Tests - Nero Burning Rom 6.6.0.16:
To test the double layer DVD writing performance of the GSA-4167B, I used Verbatim 2.4x DVD+R DL, Memorex 2.4x DVD+R DL, Verbatim 4x DVD-R DL and RiDATA 4x DVD-R DL media. I created about 8GB of random files and directories on my hard drive and then burned them to our test discs with Nero.
While the DL12 firmware boosts the GSA-4167B's DVD+R DL writing speed to 8x, we were not able to test the drive at this speed. For whatever reason, Verbatim's 8x DVD+R DL media was limited to only 2.4x, even though it is one of the two types supported by this firmware.
Nevertheless, the GSA-4167B had no problems writing to Verbatim's DVD+R DL media at 6x. Unfortunately, Memorex's Ritek manufactured discs would not work at anything faster than 2.4x.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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DVD+R DL Write | 18:47 | 15:13 | 18:19 | 18:17 |
While no match for the drive from Sony, the GSA-4167B took 18:57 to write 8001MB of data. So what about writing quality? Take a look below.
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The GSA-4167B's writing quality was very good with Verbatim's 2.4x DVD+R DL media. Even at 6x, the discs yielded some fairly good results with both KProbe and CD Speed. Unfortunately, the results weren't as good with Memorex's DVD+R DL media. While written at a slower speed, the PI/PIF rates were higher this time around, especially when tested with the BenQ DW1640. This didn't have any effect on the GSA-4167B. However, the DW1640 did have to slow down when reading the disc back.
LG's new "Super-Multi" drive also features 4x DVD-R DL writing speeds. To test the drive's writing times, DVD-R DL media from Verbatim and Ridata was used.
The GSA-4167B had no problems writing to Verbatim's 4x DVD-R DL media at its rated speed. Unfortunately, RiDATA's new discs would not work at anything faster than 2x.
LG GSA-4167B |
Sony DRU-810A |
NEC ND-3540A |
Plextor PX-716A |
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DVD-R DL Write | 27:00 | 29:23 | 20:34 | 19:01 |
With its 4x writing speed, the GSA-4167B wasn't nearly as fast as the drives from NEC and Plextor. In our tests, it took LG's new drive 27:00 to write 8001MB of data. So what about writing quality? Take a look below.
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The GSA-4167B's writing quality was pretty good with Verbatim's 4x DVD-R DL media. The PI/PIF rates stayed within acceptable limits when tested with both KProbe and CD Speed and there were no readability problems. Unfortunately, the results weren't as good with RiDATA's new DVD-R DL media. The PI/PIF rates were not only high, there were a number of PO Failures. As you can see, this caused readability problems with both drives.
Performance Revisited:
While not the fastest at everything, LG's new "Super-Multi" drive performed fairly well throughout most of our tests. The GSA-4167B turned in some very good times when writing to DVD±R and DVD±RW media. However, it's 6x DVD+R DL and 4x DVD-R DL writing speeds put it at a slight disadvantage. Reading DVD's wasn't a problem for the drive either. In our tests, the GSA-4167B read single layer, data DVD-ROM's at 16x and DVD±R media at 10x, but slowed to only 5x when reading DVD videos.
The GSA-4167B also did relatively well in our CD read tests. The drive read pressed and CD-R discs at speeds near 48x and had some fairly good seek times. When writing CD's, the GSA-4167B performed as expected. While not as fast as some of the other drives we've looked at, its writing quality was quite good. With all things considered, the LG GSA-4167B gets an 8 out of 10 for the performance section of this review.
Like the GSA-4163B before it, the GSA-4167B has had its share of growing pains. People that picked up the drive right away quickly found out that its writing quality wasn't as good as some of LG's previous "Super-Multi" drives. Thankfully, LG was quick to respond, releasing a couple of updates for the GSA-4167B. The new firmware fixed many of the problems people were seeing, turning the GSA-4167B into a pretty decent drive. However, as you saw in this review, there are still a few rough spots that need to be worked out.
The GSA-4167B performed very well when writing to DVD+R and DVD-R media at 16x. Thanks to its P-CAV writing method, it took only five and a half minutes to write an entire 4.7GB DVD. LG's new drive also did pretty well in our rewriting tests, turning in some impressive times with DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM media. Unfortunately, the GSA-4167B wasn't as fast as some of the other drives when writing to DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL media. While LG has tried to narrow this performance gap, we could not get the drive to write to DVD+R DL media at 8x, even though this speed is supposedly supported in the DL12 firmware.
With a drive like the GSA-4167B, media compatibility and writing quality are just as important as speed. Fortunately, finding DVD±R media that would work at 16x really wasn't an issue. The drive wrote to most of our test media at its rated speeds and was even able to write to some 8x DVD+R discs at 12x. The GSA-4167B's writing quality was also fairly good for the most part. However, there's still room for improvement, especially with Philips 16x DVD+R and Ritek DVD-R DL media. Hopefully LG can tweak this in a future firmware update.
LG's new "Super-Multi" drive also performed relatively well in our DVD read tests. Along with some fairly good seek times, the GSA-4167B was able to read single layer DVD-ROM's at 16x, DVD±R discs at 10x and both DVD±RW and DVD±R DL media at a respectable 8x. Unfortunately, it slowed to only 5x when reading DVD-Videos. While this doesn't have any effect on movie playback, there are better drives out there if you want to rip DVD movies.
Reading CD's wasn't a problem for the GSA-4167B either. In our tests, the drive read pressed and CD-R media at speeds near 48x and CD-RW discs at 40x. This level of performance carried over to our DAE tests, where the drive ripped audio CD's at 40x. As a writer, the GSA-4167B performed reasonably well. It had no problems holding its own in our rewriting tests. However, due to its Z-CLV writing method, it wasn't as fast as some of the other drives when writing to CD-R media. Nevertheless, its writing quality was quite good.
When it comes to features, the GSA-4167B is very similar to LG's previous "Super-Multi" drives. Along with support for all major CD and DVD formats, it has a 2MB buffer that is backed up by Super Link buffer underrun protection. While this buffer is a little smaller than what we'd like to see on a 16x DVD writer, this system worked flawlessly in our tests. The GSA-4167B also has a good number of writing and rewriting speeds to choose from and has the ability to set the book type of DVD+R and DVD+R DL media. To top it all off, LG has included an interesting mix of software from Nero and CyberLink.
In the end, it usually comes down to price. Fortunately, the GSA-4167B is one of the more affordable 16x DVD±RW drives currently available. Available in your choice of black or beige, the the drive can be picked up for less than $50 through some of the online vendors found on Pricegrabber.
LG GSA-4166B 16x Super-Multi |
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Features: Installation: Performance: |
9 9 8 |
Overall: | 9 |
Highs:
- Writes to DVD±R media at 16x
- Writes to DVD+RW media at 8x
- Writes to DVD-RW media at 6x
- Writes to DVD+R DL media at 6x
- Writes to DVD-R DL media at 4x
- Reads single layer DVD-ROM's at 16x
- Reads DVD±R media at 10x
- Reads DVD±RW and DVD±R DL media at 8x
- Reads and writes DVD-RAM media at 5x
- Features 48x CD-R and 32x CD-RW writing speeds
- Excellent DAE speeds
- Features Super Link buffer underrun protection
- Good CD writing quality
- Includes software from Nero and CyberLink
- Supports bitsetting for DVD+R and DVD+R DL media
- Affordably priced
Lows:
- Questionable writing quality with some DVD+R and DVD±R DL media
- Had a hard time reaching its rated speeds when reading pressed and CD-R discs
- Wasn't able to write to Verbatim 8x DVD+R DL media at 8x
- Reads DVD-Videos at only 5x
- Cannot set the book type of DVD+RW media
- Cannot do write quality testing
- Has a 2048KB buffer
- Overburns to only 95:10