NEC2500 finally out...

[deeba]

Sounds great and first with both +,- x8,DVDRWx4 .
Now the question is how hackeble the drive is:)?1300>2500?Doubt it ,anyway,the livewarehouse got it for 136$,good price .
Peace

[nopcbs]

...and whether it supports bitsetting. And which media that 8X works with.

[Telstar]

Finally, a true 8X DVD±R burner for $136 even if it's just an OEM model, too bad LiveWarehouse only has the black bezel model in stock. The NEC ND-2500A has very good writing performance with high quality media according to the following Japanese review:

http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/nd2500a/nd2500a.htm

KProbe results:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/nd2500a/kprobe.htm

Both Taiyo Yuden and Mitsubishi Chemical 4X DVD-R media can be recorded at 8X, using B's Recorder Gold 7.11 software.

With the introduction of the NEC ND-2500A, there is more pressure for Plextor to reduce the price of its PX-708A and provide 8X writing speed for DVD-R media as well.

[aviationwiz]

It only does 8x for about half the burn. The 708 switches from 6x to 8x at about the point that drive switches from 4x to 6x. Looks nice, but 4-6-8 is too much for me, coming from plain 6-8. More reviews would be nice, especially to see if it does 8x on ritekg04's.

[hoxlund]

please someone find out if it does steady solid 8x burns on 4x g04's

before friday please otherwise i have to buy it, friday = payday = new dvd burner

[ruderacer]

I looked at the specs and it did not say anything about CD-R/CD-RW. Is this a DVD+-R/+-RW drive only?

[Telstar]

please someone find out if it does steady solid 8x burns on 4x g04's

I think the current firmware ver. 1.05 could only burn the RITEKG04 discs at 4X, but since the NEC firmwares are well "maintained" by the gurus from the Firmware Page, anyone who actually owns the NEC ND-2500A should contact them so they can start working on the firmware to make more 4X discs available for writing at 8X, although NEC may have added more or different encryption to the firmware as Pioneer did to their A06/106D firmware:

http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=20603

It only does 8x for about half the burn. The 708 switches from 6x to 8x at about the point that drive switches from 4x to 6x. Looks nice, but 4-6-8 is too much for me, coming from plain 6-8.

There is no doubt that the NEC has a slower burn speed for writing at 8X compared to other 8X burners, but this is the first burner which also burns DVD-R discs at 8X and for such an attractive price. Besides the writing quality of the ND-2500A for its first try, unlike the Sony DRU-530A or Lite-On LDW-811S, is pretty close to that of the Plextor PX-780A:

KProbe results of the PX-708A:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yss/px708a/china04.htm

It's quite clear that NEC intends to maintain its leading market share in the DVD burner market. It's about time to start asking Plextor to provide the 8X writing for DVD-R discs with a firmware upgrade since Lite-On is going to provide it eventually.

Isn't competition great?

[konsolen]

plextor support told that they have no infos about firmwareupgrade in the future

[kevincott]

here are the reported specs:

http://www.nec.co.uk/press_detail.asp?id=597

[BurninMan921]

I've always liked NEC drives, but 4-6-8x Z-CLV? My Optorite does 4x-8x Z-CLV. And only 32x16x40x CD?

Now, as for burn times, the Plex is the fastest 8x around. The DD0401 mostly seems to switch to 8x around 25-30% or so (haven't really watched it to see exactly where) and ends up around 10 minutes or so for a full disk. I wonder if the NEC2500 hit's 6x before the DD0401 hits 8x?

Hmm...

[sti3]

Can't wait for the first english-language review of this drive. Ewiz.com has it for $137 OEM. Hella cheap!

Aaron

[dolphinius_rex]

Urge to buy drive....rising...... must resist! must wait for Pioneer A07! .....

[aviationwiz]

Urge to buy drive....rising...... must resist! must wait for Pioneer A07! .....

LOL. If you want a true 8x dual format burner, get the ND-2500A, the quality is nearly up to par with Plextor, and it's quite cheap.

[hoxlund]

wow $137, you guys i will buy this friday, ill take pics and benchmarks and post ASAP

[hoxlund]

one thing i realized, dvd-rw and dvd+rw are both 4x

[hoxlund]

I bought the NEC 2500 from ewiz for $150.07

$135 + $15.07 fedex express shipping = $150.07

as soon as I receive the drive I will take pics, screenshots

[aviationwiz]

[hoxlund]

is there anyone else in the cdrlabs/cdfreaks circle that plans on buying or has purchased this drive? or am i the only one?

its gonna be cool to be a guinea pig

[dolphinius_rex]

I'll consider buying it if other people report good things. I don't have enough money to be guinea pigging myself too often

[hoxlund]

well, im am at all your mercy, poke me, prod me

[pigpenz]

have both of them and the NEC works fine not quite as fast as the Plextor but you cant beat the price 33% less than the plextor...once we get some update firmwares for the NEC I think itll be right up there.

[RJW]

Once we get the firmwares from NEC.

Do remember that NEC firmware support was very bad in the past and turned out just decent with the ND-1100 and ND-1300. Now I hope that they will support this model just as good still I first want to see it.
Also I won't buy it with the upcomming dual layer.
Since the change that this drive can support dual layer is allmost zero !

[OC-Freak]

is there anyone else in the cdrlabs/cdfreaks circle that plans on buying or has purchased this drive? or am i the only one?

its gonna be cool to be a guinea pig

I'm getting one, when the dealer gets it in stock. The price I got it for was a real steal - and since I love playing with new toys - I couldn't resist and hit the order button

Will probably make a quick review of it over at cdfreaks in january - don't know exact time as I already have another review unit in my "lab".

Price was 43% cheaper than a plextor 8X here - go figure.....

I hope the write quality is good

[minchin]

We know that some DVD+R can be overclocked with the current crop of 8x writers. Are there any confirmed DVD-R media that can be overclocked....?

Come to think about it, we all know that some 4x media can be written at 8x with some writers. Why is it that not every drive can do the same? I mean, what is involved in the 'writing strategy'? Laser power setting, spin rate...etc etc??? Say we know that Plexy can write a lot more 4x media at 8x than say my brand MinBurner (imaginary brand), is it really difficult for me to buy a Plexy, monitor the circuits or laser output and just copy the writing strategy?

Min

[Kennyshin]

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/ho ... _i_dd.html

NEC ND-2500A: 16,800 Yen

LG GSA-4081B: 16,953 Yen

4KUS DRW-1S81: 14,580 Yen (UWorks)