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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:46 am

Yup! I got it :D

Now I just need to get Verbatim America or Verbatim Canada to negotiate with me :wink:
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Postby frank1 on Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:51 am

Taking in account all the scans published by alexnoe here:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=152852

the only good condtitions to burn these new Verbatim 8x "MKM-003" are:
Nec 4550 fimrware 1.06 (or 1.07) @ 8x mode Z-CLV
Plextor PX-716 with firmware 1.09 @ 6x mode Z-CLV


I am looking forward for what:
- the Plextor PX-755 with it's new firmware 1.02 is doing @ 4x mode CLV
- and also the BenQ's 1640 and 1655 are doing with their latest firmware
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Postby Ian on Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:35 am

I've been using this media for months in our various reviews and 9 out of 10 times, the results are excellent at 8x. Sometimes its on par with Verbatim's 2.4x media.. but usually its better.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:16 pm

Ian wrote:I've been using this media for months in our various reviews and 9 out of 10 times, the results are excellent at 8x. Sometimes its on par with Verbatim's 2.4x media.. but usually its better.


I have to agree.... it REALLY surprised me how good the quality of the media was right off the bat.
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Postby SoBal on Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:28 pm

This media is even better than 2.4x. Few results of my tests:
BenQ DW-1640
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BenQ DW-1650
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LG GSA-4166B
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LiteON SHW-16H5S
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NEC ND-4550A
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Philips DVDR1648P1
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Plextor PX-750A
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Plextor PX-755A
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Crappy BB, why image url's does not work? It seems you have some problems with BB config...
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Postby Ian on Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:29 pm

It doesn't recognize the png format. Use jpg, gif or something.
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Postby SoBal on Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:42 pm

Sorry for OT. 1) For screenshots most suitable file format is PNG. Lesser size than any JPEG and perfect quality. Better than GIF. A lot of reasons. I've resigned using other file formats to store screenshots few years ago. Just waste of space.

PHPBB2 and PNG:

http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=186269

http://smartor.is-root.com/viewtopic.php?t=10723

And this one looks interesting (mod):
http://www.phpbb2.de/ftopic13952-15.html
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:03 pm

Ian wrote:It doesn't recognize the png format. Use jpg, gif or something.


Might be worth making the addition Ian, many forum users, including myself use .PNG quite heavily :wink:
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Postby Ian on Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:56 pm

You'll have to ask Socheat.
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Postby frank1 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:09 am

I hope the following pictures are the tests pointed by SoBal.
I tried to report them on a other website and sudendly the pictures show up.
(If somebody can explain to me why this happened I would like to know)



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This media is even better than 2.4x. Few results of my tests:


BenQ DW-1640 : firmware BSMB
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BenQ DW-1650 : fw BCAC
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LG GSA-4166B : fw 1.02
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Here I cannot find the right name for the file ...
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LiteON SHW-16H5S : fw LSOR
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NEC ND-4550A : fw 1.06
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Philips DVDR1648P1 : fw P2.2
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Plextor PX-750A: fw 1.01
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Plextor PX-755A : firmware 1.00
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Postby SoBal on Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:05 pm

Yes mate, those are the pics I wanted to show. Thanks. Could you tell me how did you do that?
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Postby frank1 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:09 pm

I inserted %20 after the name of the brand of the burner.

For the:
BenQ DW-1640
it goes that way:

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http://www.cdrlab.pl/imagestatic/benq%2 ... tim_8_.png


In fact this was done automaticly by IE 5 when I put the url without [img]
in the address barr of Internet Explorer
And then I put back a [img].%20.%20.[/img]

For the LG burner it just finds no picture




Notice:
Because for DVD in the format +R
it impossible to read from the burned DVD+R the name of the writer used
alexnoe puts in the line
comment:
the writer used, the firmware version and the writing speed

As you can see on Page 1 of the present thread
or here:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=152852


In think that for DL it is quite important to have the firmware version and the writing speed within the PxScans
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:12 pm

Hrm... I actually wouldn't classify even a single one of those to be good burns :o
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Postby SoBal on Sun Feb 12, 2006 2:27 pm

Fillin the blanks:
BenQ DW1640: BSMB
BenQ DW1650: BCAC
LG GSA-4166B 1.02
LiteON SHW-16H5S: LS0R
NEC ND-4550A: 1.06
Philips DVDR1648P1: P2.2
Plextor PX-750A: 1.01
Plextor PX-755A: 1.00

For LG's screenshots please try changing the filename please:
old = new
d_dl_p_verbatim_8_.png = d_dl_p_verbatim8_.png
This should work.
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Postby dodecahedron on Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:15 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:Hrm... I actually wouldn't classify even a single one of those to be good burns :o

aren't the NEC and Lite-On burns OK?
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:02 am

dodecahedron wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:Hrm... I actually wouldn't classify even a single one of those to be good burns :o

aren't the NEC and Lite-On burns OK?


The NEC 4550 is ALMOST a decent burn... the LiteON is still pretty bad though.

All the Beta scores are VERY poor in general. A lot of DVD players will not be able to handle such large deviations from the format standard.
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Postby frank1 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:37 am

SoBal wrote:For LG's screenshots please try changing the filename please:
old = new
d_dl_p_verbatim_8_.png = d_dl_p_verbatim8_.png
This should work.

I could not find the right name for the second file for the LG burner:


LG GSA-4166B:

[img]http://www.cdrlab.pl/imagestatic/lg%20gsa-4166b/zapis/d_dl_p_verbatim8_.png[/img]
is correct
[img]http://www.cdrlab.pl/imagestatic/lg%20gsa-4166b/zapis/d_dl_p_verbatim8_q.png[/img]
does not work
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Postby SoBal on Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:45 am

Mate, sorry for misleading you, I've just browsed LG 4166 results and find out that the writing quality was that bad the px716 cannon red it for scanning (same for MKM-001-00 and RICOHJPN-D00-01). It is just not a DL burner. Latest LGs are just a crap.
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Postby frank1 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:50 am

Maybe people should discuss the firmware 1.02 you used for the LG 4166B
Is the LG 4167B not better with firmware DL11 or 12 ?
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