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Gooberslot wrote:I know the review wasn't the best in the world but this drive didn't look too good to me. Especially bad was how the Plextor had trouble reading discs burnt on the LG.
aviationwiz wrote:I wouldn't say it's a biased review, I'd just say that AnandTech makes crappy Optical Drive reviews.
Why do those tests at all if no test on 12x DVD+R and 5x DVD-RAM is being done?
Gooberslot wrote:They weren't trying to prove that the Plextor was a better drive they were just using it to see if the burns from the LG would play back on a different drive which IMO is a very good test to do that other sites should copy. And the most likely reason they chose the Plextor for the read tests is because they thought the Plextor was the best. If they really wanted to show the LG in a bad light they'd have chosen a known bad reader like the Nec.
To the contrary. When Drive A cannot read disks made by Drive B, you can make two conclusions: Drive A is a bad reader or Drive B is a bad writer. If they had used a known bad reader, everyone would have blamed it on the reader, whereas by using a drive that is considered good (Plextor) they might lead people to the conclusion that the LG is a bad writer (because everyone knows that Plextor is a good reader, no?) The question is whether this is the right conclusion.
Seems like the right conclusion to me. When a good reader can't read a disc then the only explanation I can see is that the disc is bad. To me a good burn should be able to be read on any reader, even a picky one like the Nec. When it fails on a reader that doesn't normally have problems then something is seriously wrong, unless there is a known compatibility problem like some old stand alones and DVD+R.
dr_st wrote:You missed my point which was that Plextor being a good reader should not be taken as a given. Also, I disagree that when a burned disk cannot be read it's always the fault of the recorder.
From their review it wasn't clear if they tried to read the burned disks on the LG itself, and if so, what were the results.
fyi, 712a is not a good dvd reader; it maybe is a fast reader but not very compatable. many disks burnt with 107d & 812s were not be read with 712a even though 2500a, 812s & 107d did read them without problems.
GSA-4120B is a PX-712A killer, that's my conclusion. Whether I say so or not, there are millions of buyers and tens of thousands of distributors in the world. Right now, PX-712A is 2x as expensive as GSA-4120B in Tokyo.
Gooberslot wrote:GSA-4120B is a PX-712A killer, that's my conclusion. Whether I say so or not, there are millions of buyers and tens of thousands of distributors in the world. Right now, PX-712A is 2x as expensive as GSA-4120B in Tokyo.
What does the amount of buyers have to do with anything? People buy crap all the time. Just look at how many people have bought a Geforce 5200 card.
Plextor should have gone out of business long ago if there were less number of people ready to spend anything on brand names than on real things.
Yeah, you are worth Plextor, and the rest of the humanity will be still happy with LG which does not have anything to do with your view of reality, I guess.
generaljan wrote:the cheapest discount market
generaljan wrote:the ones i bourght are RICOHJPNR02. I did not know that these media were used for this Tevion Disk.
generaljan wrote:They look like this http://www.mediamatch.de/detaildvd.php?ID=2081
but they are certified for 8x recording and the media code is also different.
the ones i bourght are RICOHJPNR02. I did not know that these media were used for this Tevion Disk.
Pictures can be found here (these last 4 pics are the from the Ricoh )
http://mitglied.lycos.de/generaljan/
The burned disk was pefectly readable even in my Pioneer that officially does not support +R/RW. IF the LG has a bad writing quality i couldn´t read the disk in the pioneer.
aviationwiz wrote:NEWS ALERT: People Pay for QualityPlextor should have gone out of business long ago if there were less number of people ready to spend anything on brand names than on real things.
Umm, LG is a much wider known brand name than Plextor,
Plextor is so well known for only making optical drives because of thier excellent performance.
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