Cdfreaks presents Lite-On LDW-411S review.

[OC-Freak]

For all your pleasure I've made a review of the Lite-On LDW-411S.

It's posted aver at www.cdfreaks.com which I consider as my home

Check it out.

It do include many things that you've all requested, like DVD-Media write quality and compatibility. Along with game backup abilities and other stuff.

And for all you whiners claiming that K-Probe is totally unreliable for DVD-Scanning.....I've included a reading curve so you could see if it gets affected by the amount of errors reported by K-Probe.

I agree that K-Probe may not be 100% correct, but to my experience there is a clear connection between a bad result in K-Probe and the readability of the disc. In most cases you could see for yourself on the reading curve

Any constructive criticism is always good. As long as it's not about bad language and grammar errors (I know they are there - and I'm always trying to improve) or just general whining about K-Probe being unreliable without any proof.

Yes I know about the C't tests, and have actually mailed the person behind the tests. And to me it seems like he did not look well enough into the K-Probe program. (For example did he state that Lite-On DVD-Writers do not support scanning at lower speeds than 4X - which is wrong). But there for sure may be some truth in what he is saying, I do not have an audiodev analyzer to see for myself - they do cost a bit

[Ian]

Good review as always (I won't rip on your English.. even though you ripped on mine today ). The KProbe "disclaimer" is good too. However, its pretty long and wordy. In future reviews you might want to shorten it up and "dumb it down" a little.

If Devastator could.. he'd give it 2 thumbs up.

[OC-Freak]

For the K-Probe introduction: I know it's way to technical for most people

That's why I made a line and described what to look for in the scans a bit below all the technical information.......

But the technical information is for the few people caring about that.......

Use this only as a guideline for good discs:

PI: No larger areas on the disc should exceed 280 PI errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceed 280.
PO: No larger areas on the disc should exceed 32 PO (actually PI uncorrectable) errors, do not worry too much about high single spikes that exceeds 32.

And look at the reading curve, a slight slowdown at the end is probably nothing to worry about, but huge bumps and slowdowns are not good.

[NUT ek]

Nice Job OC-Freak.....in depth and easy to read, didnt have time to read it all but what I saw was excellent....maybe if I had or was buying the Lite on I may have given it a better read...hehehe.

Cheers

[dolphinius_rex]

I would like to applaud your including of CD Speed reading scans on the DVDs as well as the K-Probe scans. As you can see, there were a few discs with reading issues that had some pretty good scores, and vice versa. I rate it as good (I also recommended it to a few people).

[RJW]

Hmm while I do not like some things. I do like the overall result.
The issue about K-probe for testing the drives writing quality will be fixed in another way so I don't go in on that one since you don't want it and I think we allready know how I'm thinking at the moment about the subject. (People who still don't know it should do a search arround !)

The points I don't like.(apart from the points you don't want comments on.)

Next a part I really don't like but it might be because I interpretate it incorrect. However you gave me the space for it.
It's about princo !

These discs should not cause you any trouble at all.

The results and Princo's reputation show something different.
The use of this disc would mean trouble.

You probally would have ment that the bad quality isn't
comming from the Lite On burner but from the very bad quality of the Princo media.

Next about CMC media. While it isn't the best media it sure isn't as worse
as Princo. CMC DVD media performs on error levels quite ussable.
So I don't think it's fair to say CMC is bad DVD media. Specially since there newer DVD+RW's are quite decent. A bit more non pre-biased opinion would have been fair.

Still overall I like it more as the last CDRINFO reviews. Since last CDRINFO reviews allways leave me behind with some questions.(Of what they actually been doing or why. And this is not because I lack experience but just that I read a little to critical.) So I think incombination with C't (for the things you can't do) it makes a excellent combination.

Now I think the review for Amateur site/source is excellent.
However on the all over I level:
I have chosen to vote for good since there are some conclusions made which might not be reliable but then again there hard to proof at this point.
We know about which part I'm refering. For excellent I would have liked everything correct.
(So far even C't just gets good most times since the most times say nothing about the ability of drives to cope with data copy protections and there are still sometimes small errors. For excellent it has to perfect !)

Still keep up the good job.