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Specs for the New Memorex 8X drive

Postby BMR on Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:09 pm

I noticed that this drive is 8X +R and 4X -R yet they list it as 4X -RW.

I thought that both the 8X -R and the 4X -RW had not been ratified yet ????

If the 4X -RW is ratified then should this drive not also be an 8X -R ?

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Postby RJW on Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:12 pm

Nope there different specifications. One for 4 DVD-RW and one for 8x DVD-R. 8x DVD-R is quite hard. If you know how the -R technology works then it's a real challenge to make a excellent 8x DVD-R recording drive.
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Postby BMR on Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:19 pm

RJW wrote:Nope there different specifications. One for 4 DVD-RW and one for 8x DVD-R. 8x DVD-R is quite hard. If you know how the -R technology works then it's a real challenge to make a excellent 8x DVD-R recording drive.


So is this the first drive offered by anyone that has 4X -RW ???

is it a rebranded Pioneer A07 ??

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Postby tazdevl on Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:22 pm

As far as I know, 8X -R spec hasn't been hammered out. Verbatim just developed their own media and is hoping it will work.
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Postby RJW on Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:30 pm

This is something MCC is known off(Remember 24x CD-RW's.) First make it and then see if it confirms the specs.
It's not a real problem if the drive manufacturers are willing enough to optimise the drive for the media.
In all the other cases you had to wait. And since there is competition out there waiting seems to be hard these days.
Plextor 708 also is a non standard 8x drive. It switches Zones earlier as the DVD+R documentation states.(The Nutech drive switches at the correct time point !)

I don't think it's a a07 since the a07 would be supporting DVD-R 8x. Unless the firmware is crippeld and they will add support later.
8x DVD-R is difficult so a release without 8x support as OEM could be possible while Pioneer is working on a full finished version themselves after all if they fail then 8x DVD-R is over I think. Okay TOshiba could do it but remember Toshiba never has proven to be such a good manufacturer when it comes to writing quality compared to Pioneer.
Pioneer also said that they would do it and that 8x might be the end speed for DVD-R.
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Postby Ian on Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:39 pm

Memorex has been pretty buddy buddy with Lite-On the last few years. If not for the 4x DVD-RW writing speeds, I'd think it was based on the LDW-811S.

If I remember right, the A07 only had 24x CD-R write and 32x CD read speeds.
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Postby BMR on Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:57 pm

Ian wrote:Memorex has been pretty buddy buddy with Lite-On the last few years. If not for the 4x DVD-RW writing speeds, I'd think it was based on the LDW-811S.

If I remember right, the A07 only had 24x CD-R write and 32x CD read speeds.


You are correct on the write speed but not the read speed Ian,

- DVD-R : 8x
- DVD-RW : 4x
- DVD+R : 8x
- DVD+RW : 4x
- CD-R : 24x
- CD-RW: 24x
- DVD-ROM : 12x
- CD-ROM : 40x

Since I have heard of no other makers that support 4X -RW and the Liteon does not, I will bet you it is a Pioneer A07 that Pioneer has let out with no 8X -R support. This would make sense since the last memorex drive was an A06. Perhaps even Pioneer will release the A07 without the 8X -R since it is taking so long to get it up to spec. ( Wouldn't want to lose those Christmas Dollars you know :wink: )


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Postby Ian on Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:21 pm

But what about the Memorex's 40x CD writing speeds?
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Postby jsl on Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:46 pm

Same MTBF (70000 h) as Lite-On states for its drives. Pioneer stated 60000 h for the A07 in the leaked specs, although that could have changed in the final specs.
The 4x DVD-RW might be a typo...
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Postby BMR on Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:14 pm

jsl wrote:The 4x DVD-RW might be a typo...


surely by accident :wink:

However, it sounds like you may be correct.

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Postby RJW on Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:02 am

4x DVD-RW is also on the new 8x NEC Dual format drive. At least it was when the first anouncements were made .
NEC ND-2300A

DVD+R 8x
DVD+RW 4x
DVD-R schreiben: 8x
DVD-RW 4x
DVD reading 12x
CD-R: 32x
CD-RW : 24x
CD reading 40x

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