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Testing Lite-On LDW-811S and Plextor PX-708A @ 8x

Postby Kennyshin on Tue Nov 04, 2003 2:46 am

Failing.

No 8x media available for this 8x writer.

(I haven't got this drive but my friend's testing it in Seoul. Just arrived from Taiwan.)

There's only 4x DVD+RW media bundled.

I am considering to buy one but I already spent over 300 USD to buy Plextor PX-708A yesterday.
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Postby dhc014 on Tue Nov 04, 2003 3:15 am

Could he maybe send me a firmware backup for the 811S? ;)
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Re: Testing Lite-On LDW-811S and Plextor PX-708A

Postby victor on Tue Nov 04, 2003 2:36 pm

I noticed that TLA# of your new 708A drive is 0102 .
Do you know any hardware change or difference in comparison with drive coded TLA# 0000 ---> 0003 ?
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Postby Kennyshin on Tue Nov 04, 2003 4:48 pm

dhc014 wrote:Could he maybe send me a firmware backup for the 811S? ;)


He already tried "overclocking" 411S to 811S, of course failed. :D
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Re: Testing Lite-On LDW-811S and Plextor PX-708A

Postby Kennyshin on Tue Nov 04, 2003 4:49 pm

victor wrote:I noticed that TLA# of your new 708A drive is 0102 .
Do you know any hardware change or difference in comparison with drive coded TLA# 0000 ---> 0003 ?
Victor


How did you know?? (Perhaps you found the pics.)
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Postby Telstar on Tue Nov 04, 2003 4:50 pm

Someone from PCDVD Forum in Taiwan just reported that the Lite-On 811S cannot burn 4X DVD+R discs at 8X at all. Discs tested include:

Mitsubishi (MCC) 4X DVD+R
That's (Taiyo Yuden) 4X DVD+R
Ritek 4X DVD+R
RiData 4X DVD+R

If this is also confirmed by others, then there is no reason to buy this burner before the 8X DVD+R discs appear.

The original link in traditional Chinese just in case people are interested:

http://forum.pcdvd.com.tw/showthread.ph ... did=265334
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Postby Kennyshin on Tue Nov 04, 2003 4:51 pm

Telstar wrote:Someone from PCDVD Forum in Taiwan just reported that the Lite-On 811S cannot burn 4X DVD+R discs at 8X at all. Discs tested include:

Mitsubishi (MCC) 4X DVD+R
That's (Taiyo Yuden) 4X DVD+R
Ritek 4X DVD+R
RiData 4X DVD+R

If this is also confirmed by others, then there is no reason to buy this burner before the 8X DVD+R discs appear.

The original link in traditional Chinese just in case people are interested:

http://forum.pcdvd.com.tw/showthread.ph ... did=265334


I confirm. Tested yesterday.

That's why I said "failing" in the first post.

Thanks for the link.
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Postby Kennyshin on Tue Nov 04, 2003 5:20 pm

320,000 Won in South Korea, now available to end users. (1 USD = a little less than 1,200 Won.)

No media reported to write at 8x yet.

I can find this topic linked in the above-mentioned PCDVD forum. :D
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Postby dhc014 on Tue Nov 04, 2003 5:29 pm

Kennyshin wrote:
dhc014 wrote:Could he maybe send me a firmware backup for the 811S? ;)


He already tried "overclocking" 411S to 811S, of course failed. :D


That's not really why I want it... just to check it out...
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Postby rdgrimes on Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:51 pm

If this is also confirmed by others, then there is no reason to buy this burner before the 8X DVD+R discs appear.

Jeeeeez, let them release it before you start bashing it! :wink: It may well be an awesome burner at 4x.
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Postby aviationwiz on Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:57 pm

rdgrimes wrote:
If this is also confirmed by others, then there is no reason to buy this burner before the 8X DVD+R discs appear.

Jeeeeez, let them release it before you start bashing it! :wink: It may well be an awesome burner at 4x.


1. What good is an 8x burner if it only burns well at 4x? LOL.

2. There isn't even enough information out there for me to bash it, and I'll bash anything.
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Postby rdgrimes on Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:06 pm

I have 2 52x CD burners here that never burn anything (except test discs) at 52x. Not because they don't do a great job at it, but because I like a margin of error and the results are even better.
One of the most overlooked benefits of higher speed burners is that they generally do a better job of burning at ALL speeds. I can buy a Plex "Premium" and watch it burn at 40x even when it's set at 52x, or get a LiteOn and watch it burn at the speed I TOLD it to burn at. :P
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Postby aviationwiz on Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:21 pm

rdgrimes wrote:I have 2 52x CD burners here that never burn anything (except test discs) at 52x. Not because they don't do a great job at it, but because I like a margin of error and the results are even better.
One of the most overlooked benefits of higher speed burners is that they generally do a better job of burning at ALL speeds. I can buy a Plex "Premium" and watch it burn at 40x even when it's set at 52x, or get a LiteOn and watch it burn at the speed I TOLD it to burn at. :P


Or you could always just turn off PoweRec, LOL. Besides, PoweRec is there to increase quality of the burned CD. If you want that extra 5 seconds you lost when PoweRec kicked in, turn it off, LOL.

EDIT:

Did I also mention that when it does kick in at say 40x, it's already been to about 45x'ish.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:38 pm

8x DVD+Rs will be available really REALLY soon!
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Postby integspec on Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:00 pm

Too bad for me, I only bought my 411 weeks ago...
GRRR....


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Postby aviationwiz on Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:03 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:8x DVD+Rs will be available really REALLY soon!



Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, that's what they said about 32x CD-RW media, and that sure isn't availible yet.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:10 pm

yeah, well, Ritek is already shipping 8x samples to suppliers, so I'd be surprised if more then a month goes by before we see 8x media available in some locations.
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Postby Kennyshin on Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:36 pm

dhc014 wrote:
Kennyshin wrote:
dhc014 wrote:Could he maybe send me a firmware backup for the 811S? ;)


He already tried "overclocking" 411S to 811S, of course failed. :D


That's not really why I want it... just to check it out...


Of course not. It's not something serious overclockers should expect. :D

I got the file. (Thanks to Mr. innundo @ Worldwise.co.kr for uploading it to StorageInfo.)

http://www.storageinfo.co.kr/~kenny/fir ... n/hs06.bin

or if you want a compressed one:

http://www.storageinfo.co.kr/~kenny/fir ... n/hs06.zip (the zip has only the bin file.)
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Postby dhc014 on Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:38 pm

Awesome, thanks Kennyshin!
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Postby rdgrimes on Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:42 pm

I wonder how many dead 411 drives there will be tonight? :wink:
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Postby Kennyshin on Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:48 pm

rdgrimes wrote:I wonder how many dead 411 drives there will be tonight? :wink:


In Mr. Innundo's case, he is in charge of Lite-On customer support center for Worldwise-distributed products in South Korean market. So he can do almost anything... I got some free bezels and media (of course it costs more just to visit there for me.)
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Postby OC-Freak on Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:28 am

Here is the media codes from the HS06 firmware for a LDW-811S drive:

DVD-R
MCC 00RG200
MXL RG01
VC001001
TAIYOYUDEN
SONY
CMC MAG.
PRODISCG02
MBI
OPTODISCK001
MCC 01RG20
VCR001002
TYG01
RITEKG04
ProdiscS03
CMC MAG. AF1
DAXON004
SONY04D1
MXL RG02
SKC Co.,Ltd.
PRINCO
BeAll G40001
FORNEX101
NANYA-JC001
GSC001
Dvsn
LEADDATA01
LD
LEADDATA
PRINCO
RITEKG03
TAROKO-MX4
BeAll G00001
LONGTEN 001
TDKG02000000
MAM4XG01
GSC001
MEI 00V001
OPTODISCR004
MCIG01

DVD-RW
MCC 01RW11n9
RITEK000V11A
RITEKW01
CMCW02
PRINCO
PRINCO !
ProdiscDVDRW
OPTODISCK001
MCC 00RW11N9
PVCW00V00245
TDK502sakuM3
JVC_VictorW7
OPTODISCK001!

DVD+R
RICOHJPNR00
MCC 001
MCC 002
CMC MAG R01
YUDEN000T01
RITEK R01
PRODISC R01
RICOHJPNR01
MAXELL 001
PRODISC R02
TDK 001
BeAll000P40
SONY D01
NANYA DR
RITEK R02
DAXON AZ1
CMC MAG F01
OPTODISCOP1
MPOMEDIA001
LD 001
SKYMEDIAR01
OPTODISCOR4
MPOMEDIA040
YUDEN000T01 
YUDEN000T02
MCC 003
RICOHJPNR02 
RITEK R03 
CMC MAG E01 
PRODISC R03
SONY D11
NANYA RJB
MBIPG101R03
OPTODISCOP2
Philips 081
CMC MAG F01

DVD+RW
RICOHJPNW01
MCC A01
RITEK 001
MKM A02
CMC MAG W01
NANYASC DRW
RICOHJPNW11
OPTODISCOP1
PRODISC W01
INFODISCA01
RITEK 0040
RITEK W04
CMC MAG W02
PHILIPS 041
SONY S11
DAXON D41
INFODISCA10
SENTINELW01
PRODISC W02
MBIPG101W03
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Do U have 811s eeprom???

Postby Tengkuei on Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:59 am

I got the firware, thank you

But, can I also get the 811s eeprom????

thanks a lots!!!!
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Postby MikeTR on Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:54 am

aviationwiz wrote:, and I'll bash anything.


Except for anything that has the name 'Plextor' on it of course........... :P
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Postby OC-Freak on Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:12 am

@tengkuei: An 811S EEPROM won't work (or at least not good) in anything else than that drive.

Normal users should NEVER be allowed to modify the EEPROM, so the relesae of ltnflash with EEPROM support is the worst thing that have happened in the Lite-On world so far.....

Just look at all the failed drives and requests for EEPROM's since stupid people messed up their drives with it......
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