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Maxell 4x DVD+R - Who makes em?

Postby Ian on Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:26 pm

I picked up a pack of these today at Walgreen's. They had them on sale for $12.49. I haven't had a chance to check the manufacturer yet. Was wondering if anyone knew. The label says Made in Taiwan.
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Postby VEFF on Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:36 pm

Apparently (according to dvdrhelp.com user reviews) Ricoh.

It seems Ricoh really does own the large majority of the 4X +R market as far as manufacturing is concerned:
Verbatim
TDK
Maxell
Memorex
....


I presume it was a 10 pack?
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Plextor PX-716A TLA0304
Plextor PX-716A same TLA

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Postby Kennyshin on Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:23 pm

I don't think Ricoh actually makes so many DVD+R media alone. Millions of Ritek, Memorex, Maxell, Optodisc, and many other brand name DVD+R media made by Ricoh and they are produced in Taiwan? Rather than that, Ritek could be making DVD+R media under Ricoh technologies and some agreements to use Ricoh code and hundreds of other companies use Ritek media to sell under their own brand names. I have Ricoh 4x DVD+R media made in Taiwan, imported by Worldwise, and purchased by Lite-On IT. Lite-On and Worldwise have had close relationship with Ritek so they ship their LDW-401S and LDW-411S with 4x DVD+R and 4x DVD+RW media (which I think is) supplied by Ritek.

I never heard of Ricoh DVD media manufacturing lines in Taiwan.

And Ritek truly owns nearly 80% of 2.4x and 4x DVD+R market though other manufacturers in Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan are also trying to catch up, like BeAll of Samsung, Taiyo Yuden, CMC, Prodisc.

Ritek has become very aggressive, greedy, monopolistic, imposing these days. Even "arrogant" sometimes. And very profitable.
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Postby OC-Freak on Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:59 pm

I spoke with a person with contacts in ritek, and according to him ricoh provided the technology.....and then again ritek manufactured the discs, which is identified as ricoh.

According to him all discs (DVD+R and DVD+RW 2.4X and 4X)identified as ricoh and made in Taiwan is made by ritek.

Ricoh discs seems to be 70-80% of the discs available here in Norway at least....
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:23 pm

I can verify that this is true, in at least most cases :wink:

Which is to say, that it is possible that there are exceptions, although I don't know of any.
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Postby RJW on Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:19 am

Most DVD+R media carying the ID of RICOH is actually manufacture by Ritek same counts for cd-r's.
Only a very small amount of DVD+R with RICOH id is made by Ricoh themselves.

Ritek has the production capactiy.
While Ricoh provides all required technology.(Dye compostition , stampers and maybe even the chemicals.)
All disc's are manufatured this way are under RICOH quality controle policy.

I can give quite some more examples which are manufactured this way.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Thu Oct 16, 2003 10:11 am

In CDRInfo's new review on two single format DVD+R/RW drives (a Ricoh, and an AOpen) they use some Maxell 4x media which supposedly has a Maxell ID code.... I've never seen this before!
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Postby RJW on Thu Oct 16, 2003 11:40 am

And I thought you were working for some Maxell supplier. :D

Looks like the screwed up with the K-probe measurements and the writing quality. With one large spike on allmost allways the same time I would have done some rereads. And then put some pictures that were zoomed in on the other part. Since now we can't see if POF goes over 3 yes or no.

Also the cd-r writing quality is really lame.
1 brand. And some experimental software. If they used Plextools pro then at least the software was proven now. There ussing something new which hasn't been validated. From Plextools we at least know that what it''s reading can be compared with the same combination of hardware and software somewhere else.
Sorry to say but 2 other sources including C't claim that the writing quality isn't that good. But if you only take TY disc's then you probally never no.

I'm working on a table with all C't burner test data I have and will publish this one on this board. It might be quite interresting.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:41 pm

I do work for a Maxell supplier... but we don't carry ANY DVD+R/RW media, because nobody in Canada ever buys them (except for myself it appears... :evil: ).

Regarding the CDRinfo.com results... well, I agree with you, and there are no excuses.

Although I don't think they will switch to using the Plextor Premium's Q-Check, simply because it is *SO* hard to display nicely!
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Postby Kennyshin on Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:31 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:In CDRInfo's new review on two single format DVD+R/RW drives (a Ricoh, and an AOpen) they use some Maxell 4x media which supposedly has a Maxell ID code.... I've never seen this before!


Some Maxell media, from CD to DVD-RAM, are made by Hitachi, Japan.
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