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Anyone know anything about Nu-Tech drives?

Postby thegdog on Tue Oct 07, 2003 5:01 pm

Like what mechanism do they use?

Are they an OEM of another drive?

Are they any good? :D


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http://www.cdrlabs.com/#5

http://www.nuniverse.com/1_english/index.php
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Postby Ian on Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:18 pm

I'm not really sure. At first I thought they might be based on one of BenQ's drives because it listed Seamless Link as a feature, but the specs aren't the same.
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Postby David on Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:54 pm

After reading the comany description they are designed in house by them.
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Postby VEFF on Tue Oct 07, 2003 11:30 pm

I had never heard of them before Sunday.
It seems there will be more and more companies producing DVD burners, including both big names and small, unknown names...
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Postby jsl on Wed Oct 08, 2003 4:10 am

NU/QSI are supposed to use Philips semiconductors "solution kit" for the new DVD writers. I think QSI are quite big in making OEM notebook drives but they haven't made any half-height drives previously or sold any drives as retail.

Edit: Here are some pictures of the drives: http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/ar ... 858&page=6
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Postby Murse on Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:05 am

I'm also really interested in this drive. As soon as anyone sees a review or other info, please post it. I would specifically like to know if Quanta is going to enable bitsetting in their firmware.

A little more info on the drives here:

http://forum.firmware-flash.com/viewtopic.php?p=77194#77194
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Postby Murse on Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:41 pm

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Those specs are awesome

Postby wicked1 on Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:10 am

I was reading the specs on http://www.nuniverse.com/1_english/3_pr ... .php?pID=2
It states:
Application discs
- Read form DVD-ROM(DVD-5, DVD-9, DVD-10, DVD-18),
Multi-Border DVD-R/DVD-RW, Multi-Session DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-RAM

This sounds like a terrific drive on paper anyway.Ram support is nice.I emailed them asking if any 4X media has been successfully written at 8X similar to the Plextors.Havent got a reply yet.
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Postby Murse on Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:44 am

I sent them an e-mail a couple of days ago about bitsetting support, but have not yet received a reply. Based on the address, I think the e-mails may be going to Quanta in Taiwan.

I also called their office in California and asked their "tech" about bitsetting. I don't think he really understood what I was trying to ask, and I didn't get a clear answer.

The question about 4x media at 8x speed is a good one. Maybe the tech in California could answer that question.
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Re: Those specs are awesome

Postby Ian on Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:56 am

wicked1 wrote:Ram support is nice.


Yeah, I didn't see that before. Pioneer's upcoming drive can also read DVD-RAM discs I guess.
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Postby wicked1 on Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:54 pm

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=174502

Here it is for 139.99 with free 2nd day air and its in stock.
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Postby Murse on Fri Oct 10, 2003 5:55 pm

Great, a new low price. Thanks for the info. Good merchant, too.
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Postby wicked1 on Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:52 pm

I got an email back today from nu tech.Here it is:

-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 2:16 AM
To: Ann Pan
Subject: DDW-081 questions



Can this writer write at 8X on any of the currently availible 4X media similar to what the Plextor 708A does?Do you know of any place that is doing a review on this drive?If it can write at 8X on certain 4X media I want one :)

----- Original Message -----

From: Ann.Pan@nu-usa.com

To:

Cc: Michael.Chang@nu-usa.com

Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 12:03 PM

Subject: RE: DDW-081 questions



Hi William,



Thanks for your interest in Nu Technology.

To answer your question, our 8X DVD is compatible with any 4X DVD+R or DVD+RW media in the market. You may find our product at some on-line stores such as newegg.com and zipzoomfly.com
Thanks again for your e-mail.
Ann Pan
Nu Technology

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Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 12:54 PM
To: Ann Pan
Subject: Re: DDW-081 questions

Thanks for recomending zipzoomfly.com but you didnt answer my question. Is it possible to write to any 4X media at 8x?

Hi William,



My engineers will physically buy some 4X media in the current market to do the testing this weekend. Will let you know the result shortly.



Thanks for your interest in Nu Technology.



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ZipZoomFly just raised price!

Postby BoogieBlues on Sat Oct 11, 2003 3:05 am

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=174502

just bumped the price $10 to $149.99....

Dont thinkit is a BenQ drive they have a 8X +R 4x+RW out now with totaly different specs....Philips is coming out with a 8X+R 4X+RW with the same specs as the Nu Tech DDW-081 in a month or so....so either NU Teech is making the drives for Philips or Philips is making them for NU-Tech Or maybe they are working on it together?....Looks Like lots of competition coming down the pike pretty soon...Now if we could just get some 4X+RW media to use in them...now that would be cool...
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Re: ZipZoomFly just raised price!

Postby Ian on Sat Oct 11, 2003 10:54 am

BoogieBlues wrote:Dont thinkit is a BenQ drive they have a 8X +R 4x+RW out now with totaly different specs....Philips is coming out with a 8X+R 4X+RW with the same specs as the Nu Tech DDW-081 in a month or so....so either NU Teech is making the drives for Philips or Philips is making them for NU-Tech Or maybe they are working on it together?....


I know BenQ was using Philips' "Nexperia" DVD+R/+RW system (essentially a chipset) for their 8x DVD writer. Supposedly Nu Tech is doing the same.
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Postby VEFF on Sat Oct 11, 2003 11:05 am

Yes, I think the design of the Benq and Philips 8X +RW drives was a joint venture?
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price went down again

Postby wicked1 on Sat Oct 11, 2003 4:41 pm

It is now at 144.99 Why does everyone have to be like amazon :)
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Postby Koopa on Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:44 am

I heard somewhere that Nu Tech will be adding -R support in a new firmware release, does anyone know if there's any truth in that?

If so, will it be 8x -R, or just 4x -R?

I don't care about -RW
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Postby aviationwiz on Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:42 am

wicked1 wrote:I got an email back today from nu tech.


That sounds like a No. It certaintly sounds like it's a no at least. If it could do 8x on current 4x media, it would be something they would want to advertise and know about. Buying 4x media to see if it will work at 8x, FOR THIER OWN DRIVE!! I think they know, and the anwser is no.
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Postby RJW on Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:22 am

VEFF is right Philips & Benq are makeing drives together.
The 8x model is the first own design. The 4x model was still based on a Ricoh design however I think some were allready manufactured by philips/benq. The Philips OEM should be out there. Still don't know a companny that's usseing it.
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Postby VEFF on Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:11 pm

Koopa wrote:I heard somewhere that Nu Tech will be adding -R support in a new firmware release, does anyone know if there's any truth in that?

If so, will it be 8x -R, or just 4x -R?

I don't care about -RW



That would be very nice!

I just bought more 4X Memorex +R media for exactly $1 a disc + tax, which I believe only the Plextor can do at 8X for now.
I can always return them in 29 days if 8X media comes out.
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Postby wicked1 on Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:53 pm

Nu tech told me on the phone that they are still working on the dvd- support and that it should be doable with a firmware upgrade.they didnt say whether it was 8x or 4x but assured me many times it was a futureproof design(havent heard that b4)
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Postby VEFF on Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:01 pm

That is great to hear!

One thing to keep in mind is that 8X media isn't available yet and its price at launch is bound to be relatively high, even if only for a relatively short amount of time:
If the NuTech drive can't burn 4X at 8X, buyers will have to wait for 8X +R media to become available to burn at 8X, and hope that when 8X media first comes out it isn't too pricey compared to 4X DVD+R media prices at the time.
4X +R prices have been hovering at about $1 a disc when sales come around for the past several months.
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Postby Ian on Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:07 pm

wicked1 wrote:Nu tech told me on the phone that they are still working on the dvd- support and that it should be doable with a firmware upgrade.they didnt say whether it was 8x or 4x but assured me many times it was a futureproof design(havent heard that b4)


Yes, but are they going to give you this feature for free or are you going to have to buy a new drive? I'm betting the later, since you didn't pay your share of the licensing fees.

I wonder if these drives are going to need firmware updates before they will be able to write to 8x DVD+R media. It's kinda hard to add that support without having any media to test. :roll:
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Postby RJW on Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:28 am

MCC & Ricoh have allready samples for testing ready.
If I am right Plextor 708 has both strategy's allready implemented.
The main point was no manufacturer could guarantee that the 8x media would be there at the same time as the drive.
For TY I don't know.
For 8x DVD-R Ritek,MCC (and I think Pioneer & Maxell) have some technology samples ready for at least a month.
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