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Optorite DD0203 burned media cant be read by some dvd drives

Postby pablo0025 on Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:25 pm

OPTORITE DD0203 BURNED DVD-Rs WILL NOT WORK on the following pc dvd drives.

NOTE THAT IM TALKING ABOUT -R AND NOT +R (+R WORKS FINE)

1. pioneer 106
2. pioneer 105s
3. pioneer 116
4. pioneer 119
5. liteon 163d
6. SOUNDBLASTER ENCORE DRIVES.
7. SD-1712 DVD-ROM
8. LOTS OF MORE DRIVES I BELEIVE, BUT I DONT HAVE ENOUGH DATA.

So far... i only know that the burned dvd-rs can be played on the:

1.PIONEER 120
2. LITEON XJ-HD165H
3. LITEON 166S

(this is a major problem, you cant share your burned dvds with anyone, because they will not be able to read them.... AND I DO NOT BELEIVE THIS CAN BE FIXED WITH A FIRMWARE, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A MAJOR BUG OF THE OPTIRITE0203 BURNING TECHNIQUE ITSELF)


IF YOUR BURNED OPTORITE DVD-r CAN BE PLAYED IN YOUR PC DVD-ROM DRIVE..PLEASE POST THE BRAND AND MODEL.

IF IT CANT BE PLAYED AND YOUR pc dvd DRIVE and it is not IN THE LIST, PLEASE POST BRAND AND MODEL.


this sucks
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Postby DonBerg on Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:43 pm

I have had no problems reading DVD+R and +RW discs burned on the Optorite DD203 driver, reads fine on my old Pioneer DVD-114 drive as well as various standalone DVD players (Pioneer, Panasonic, JVC). The Pioneer DVD-114 drive reads DVD video discs, UDF and non-UDF DVD data discs, and even UDF InCD DVD discs all fine on DVD+R and +RW media. I tried one Verbatim DVD-RW and the Pioneer reads it but takes quite a long time to load it, several minutes. I find using +R and +RW media to be the best and in local retail stores fast x4 DVD+R media is as cheap or cheaper than slow x1 DVD-R anyway. 2.4x DVD+RW media is also faster and cheaper than 1x DVD-RW media and supports quick 1minute formattting too.
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Postby pablo0025 on Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:50 pm

DonBerg
I beleive the error is for dvd-r
maybe dvd+r doesnt have any problem

but beleive me... if you burn dvd-R with optorite, there is 90% that you will not be able to read that dvd with your pc dvd-rom drive
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Postby burninfool on Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:00 pm

@pablo0025,
What firmware are you using?I've read on other forums that alot of people are having the same problem,it seems the Optorite prefers +R media.I have only tried Ritek and Memorex +R media with the drive and they play on my Lite-On LTD-165H.
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Postby pablo0025 on Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:31 pm

im using firmware 2.16
and many people are having the same problem that i have with -R dvds.
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Postby tig2002 on Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:48 am

"but beleive me... if you burn dvd-R with optorite, there is 90% that you will not be able to read that dvd with your pc dvd-rom drive"

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I do not agree with this statement, and I do not believe that!

I mentioned many times in different threads that I had more success in compatibility with -R than +R. I burned -R disks made by CompUSA (Princo), Ritek, CompUSA (Optodisk) and Memorex on my DD0203, and all disks played well on Samsung home DVD player, Panasonic home DVD player, xBox, EPO and Delta computer DVD-ROM drives.

It appears that most people complain about compatibility -R media burned on Optorite and testing with either Pioneer or LiteOn (probably also made by Pioneer) DVD players, while there are many other brands of DVD players that are fully compatible with -R disks burned by Optorite.

Pioneer and LiteOn are not the only manufacturers of DVD players, and I do not think that 90% of DVD players on the market are made by Pioneer or LiteOn!
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Postby ensh on Tue Sep 09, 2003 8:53 am

I don't have any problem to re-read my Princo DVD-R 4X on the DVD-ROM drives I tested : a LG 16x48x24x38x DVD/CDRW combo and a no-name DVD 10X (made by Afrey I Believe).

Maybe you have a software problem (Nero, etc.) or a Hardware problem (see my post about the Optorite).
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Postby Stoner on Tue Sep 09, 2003 2:31 pm

Sigh... people using cheap media and blames it on the drive.

I happen to have the Optorite DD0203 like a lot of the sensible people who likes their money and don't care much for the name patch (ie, Pioneer, Sony, Plextor). The DD0203 is a quality drive and I haven't yet made a coaster during the past 6 months. I've no problem playing the DVDs burned w/ said writer on Lite-On 166S, 163D, LTC-48161H, Pioneer DVDR-105, and a number of Sony set top DVD players. I'm using FujiFilm 2.4x DVD+R and Nero 5.5.xx for the burn. Running WinXP Pro SP1a. MSI K7N2 Delta-L mobo.

I've moved the DD0203 to a firewire enclosure just this week. Still works like the charm and the burn speed is about the same when internal.
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Postby pablo0025 on Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:59 am

Stoner wrote:Sigh... people using cheap media and blames it on the drive.

I happen to have the Optorite DD0203 like a lot of the sensible people who likes their money and don't care much for the name patch (ie, Pioneer, Sony, Plextor). The DD0203 is a quality drive and I haven't yet made a coaster during the past 6 months. I've no problem playing the DVDs burned w/ said writer on Lite-On 166S, 163D, LTC-48161H, Pioneer DVDR-105, and a number of Sony set top DVD players. I'm using FujiFilm 2.4x DVD+R and Nero 5.5.xx for the burn. Running WinXP Pro SP1a. MSI K7N2 Delta-L mobo.

I've moved the DD0203 to a firewire enclosure just this week. Still works like the charm and the burn speed is about the same when internal.




AS YOU SAID, YOU USE +R MEDIA.
THIS BIG PROBLEM CONCERNS -R MEDIA
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Postby xman on Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:33 am

Add a Toshiba SD-M1712 DVD-ROM to the list of drives that will not read DVD-R (not DVD+R) burnt on a Optorite DD0203 (firmware 2.16). I have tried using nero 6.0.0.15 and recordnow max 4.5 and set my Optorite to master. Guess I have to stick with DVD+R only :(
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Postby jabroney12 on Wed Sep 10, 2003 12:53 pm

Like i said in another post, it is the DVD player program which has to do alot with if the DVD-r run or not. I went through 5 players before finding powerdvd 5.0 (latest version) or running through windows media player.
Try it you might just find out that the coasters are no longer frisbees anymore.
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Postby pablo0025 on Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:27 pm

jabroney12 wrote:Like i said in another post, it is the DVD player program which has to do alot with if the DVD-r run or not. I went through 5 players before finding powerdvd 5.0 (latest version) or running through windows media player.
Try it you might just find out that the coasters are no longer frisbees anymore.


AND WHAT ABOUT DATA DVDs, GAME DVDs, that could only work for movie dvd on your powerdvd
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Postby xman on Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:03 pm

I mainly use my Optorite to backup data onto DVD-R media not so much for movies, because they are generally cheaper than DVD+R media. Its just not practical, when half my friends DVD-ROM drives cant read what I have. The easy option for me is to buy a Pioneer 106, then that way all my friends will be happy.
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Postby xman on Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:46 pm

I found a temporary solution for unreadable DVD-R on my Toshiba SD-M1712 DVD-ROM drive. I used Recordnow Max 4.5 (pxEngine358 update) with TAO-Noclosed mode to backup my data onto DVD-R and that seem to work on my Toshiba. Can other people verify if this method works for other DVD-ROMs. Funny thing is TAO-Closed don't seem to work.

It appears that single session is the culprit! I used nero6.0.0.11 multisession and sure enough it also works. Optorite and single session DVD-R seems to be the problem. Single session DVD-R dont seem to be as compatible when burnt on the Optorite.
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Postby pablo0025 on Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:54 am

xman wrote:I found a temporary solution for unreadable DVD-R on my Toshiba SD-M1712 DVD-ROM drive. I used Recordnow Max 4.5 (pxEngine358 update) with TAO-Noclosed mode to backup my data onto DVD-R and that seem to work on my Toshiba. Can other people verify if this method works for other DVD-ROMs.


i would love to try that, but i sold my pioneer 105s dvdrom drive 2 days ago. if i buy a new dvdrom drive ill have in mind what you say.

anyone else can try it?
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Postby raygay27 on Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:39 am

xman wrote:I found a temporary solution for unreadable DVD-R on my Toshiba SD-M1712 DVD-ROM drive. I used Recordnow Max 4.5 (pxEngine358 update) with TAO-Noclosed mode to backup my data onto DVD-R and that seem to work on my Toshiba. Can other people verify if this method works for other DVD-ROMs. Funny thing is TAO-Closed don't seem to work.

It appears that single session is the culprit! I used nero6.0.0.11 multisession and sure enough it also works. Optorite and single session DVD-R seems to be the problem. Single session DVD-R dont seem to be as compatible when burnt on the Optorite.

hi xman
i followed ur method. use MULTISESSION burning and you know what?
it is not just readable in ur Toshiba. it is now also readable in my Pioneer 106S and LG8161B!

it seems that for my remaining tens of pieces of dvd-r i just hav to stick to this Multisession Burning.

Thanks.
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Great Find

Postby P1Tom on Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:04 pm

That is a great Find Xman! I have seen this issue on many Forums I will share with people what you found out!

Thanks for the info..

Pablo you jumped ship to fast! If only you would have waited...


Anyone else who tries this let us know how it goes!
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Postby Telstar on Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:57 pm

Please remember that this only works for DVD data discs using the Multisession option, it still doesn't work for DVD video discs. Another partial remedy is to get a Lite-On 165H or 166S, since both seem to be able to read DVD-R discs burned by the DD0203.

Hopefully this multisession option will help Optorite/Sanyo figure out what went wrong in their firmware settings, if they really want to be a serious player in this market segment.
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Postby raygay27 on Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:43 pm

Telstar wrote:Please remember that this only works for DVD data discs using the Multisession option, it still doesn't work for DVD video discs. Another partial remedy is to get a Lite-On 165H or 166S, since both seem to be able to read DVD-R discs burned by the DD0203.

Hopefully this multisession option will help Optorite/Sanyo figure out what went wrong in their firmware settings, if they really want to be a serious player in this market segment.


i burn more data then video. so for me it is still a great solution.
as for video, in fact they all play ok in standalone dvdplayer so i guess it is not so hard.i got a xbox also which plays them fine.

btw, r u sure Telstar, that LITEON 165H and 166S can read these ? where did you see this observations? did yourself test out on these dvdroms?
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Postby pablo0025 on Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:11 am

this is great news for me guys..

now PC data can be read by lots of pc-dvd-drives.


Now i have 1 question, suppose i wanna make a video dvd movie..

a)
if burn it and close the disc (it will only work on my dvd player (NOT PC one))

b)
if i burn it and make it MULTISESSION (it will only work on my pc dvdrom player, and it will not work on my home dvdplayer for example.


is this correct?

whay about burning a multisession dvd and trying to play it on the PS2 or xbox?

too bad i sold my pionneer, now i cant test this shit.
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Postby pablo0025 on Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:22 am

Telstar wrote:Please remember that this only works for DVD data discs using the Multisession option, it still doesn't work for DVD video discs. Another partial remedy is to get a Lite-On 165H or 166S, since both seem to be able to read DVD-R discs burned by the DD0203.


telstar, are you sure Lite-On 165H or 166S read the dvd -R burned with the optorite ? i might be able to buy a 165H


if 165h and 166 are very new models this explains that only newly made pc dvdrom drives read the dvds, since pioneer 120 is the newest model and i heard those read the dvds also.
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Postby Telstar on Tue Sep 16, 2003 2:30 am

CDR-Info used the Lite-On XJ-HD165H (or LTD-165H) to do the KProbe test on the DD0203 burned discs and never complained that they couldn't read the -R discs:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Article ... W&index=12

And I read from other sources that owners of both Lite-On 165H and 166S had no problem reading burned -R discs by the DD0203, although I personally do not own either drive. Some people claimed that the problem was due to weak laser power during burning, but that doesn't explain why it works when using the multisession option unless multisession requires stronger power.

After so much information has been revealed, if Optorite/Sanyo still cannot figure out what went wrong, then they deserve to be abandoned by their customers. Just my two cents.
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Postby raygay27 on Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:48 am

pablo0025 wrote:this is great news for me guys..

now PC data can be read by lots of pc-dvd-drives.


Now i have 1 question, suppose i wanna make a video dvd movie..

a)
if burn it and close the disc (it will only work on my dvd player (NOT PC one))

b)
if i burn it and make it MULTISESSION (it will only work on my pc dvdrom player, and it will not work on my home dvdplayer for example.


is this correct?

whay about burning a multisession dvd and trying to play it on the PS2 or xbox?

too bad i sold my pionneer, now i cant test this shit.


i dun think movies can be burnt in MUltisession mode.you hav to close the DVD.

another observation from Telstar quoting the info fr www.cdrinfo.com, i guess the media they use to test are those in the recommended list?i am actually using media that are NOT in the recommended list. so i cant compare and can't be sure about that. i am indeed gng to get the recommended DVD-r to see whether it is media issue.
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Postby pablo0025 on Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:55 am

Telstar wrote:After so much information has been revealed, if Optorite/Sanyo still cannot figure out what went wrong, then they deserve to be abandoned by their customers. Just my two cents.


indeed, im very angry, a burner with +r and -r support but only few pc dvdrom drives are able to read the -r disks!
do you think this can be fixed with a new firmware? because i dont think so.
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Postby wahah on Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:08 pm

There's a say in Taiwan that DVD-Rs burned with firmware 2.09 have better compatibility.
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