Plextor 8x DVD Writer (Comments on Drive ONLY)

by **VEFF** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:07 pm

aviationwiz wrote:The reason for the different included items is because VEFF is in America, and OC Freak is in Europe.

You beat me to the punch, but I was getting ready to go the mall with my poor girlfriend who is waiting for me, before I could edit my post...

by **skypx** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:13 pm

VEFF wrote:
jsl wrote:Have you tried the 6.0.0.11 version that is supposed to work according to the reports in the other thread?

That was jsl's comment to aviationwiz.

I have 6.0.0.11, and it worked fine, at 8X, for me, as posted above.
Hopefully aviationwiz can try that version with it...

VEFF, I know this is asking a lot, but can you install 6.0.0.15, and burn one of those TDK dvd's PLEASE? Thanks.

by **OC-Freak** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:46 pm

Software included in retail package: pinnacle studio, powerDVD, nero 5.5 and plextools professional.

Take a look here for some K-Probe scans.

by **MediumRare** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:01 pm

VEFF wrote:I definitely have more than enough 8X-compatible +R media between the TDK, Memorex and Verbatim

The german computer magazine "c't" has a test on 4x media in the newest issue. The interesting thing is that all 4x plus-media they tested (except Verbatim) were RICOHJPN. They tested Maxell, Memorex, Philips, Platinum, Ricoh, Speer data and TDK. This reflects the situation in Germany- things may differ in North America. Chances are good, though, that any 4x plus-media comes from Ricoh.

The quality was good. Scans by Audiodev (at 1x on their reference drive) showed max. PI Sum 8 values of <67, much lower (<10) for most of each disc (the norm requires a maximum < 280). The minus-media they tested had significantly higher values, up to 636 for Nanya media!

Incidentally, the newer versions of KProbe can sum the errors over a varying no. of samples, so that PI Sum 8 can be shown directly (but cfitz mentioned that already). The values depend on the drive and scan speed, of course. In particular, scans done at 8x or 16x will probably show larger PI counts than the Audiodev scans and may exceed the limit.

aviationwiz- if you save KProbe scans as PNG's instead of jpeg, they'll be smaller and better quality (win-win situation).

G

by **aviationwiz** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:37 pm

I just did my first 8x burn. It finished in around 7 minutes for a 4GB DVD.

Here are the KProbe results. I think they are great results.

by **aviationwiz** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:56 pm

This 2.5GB DVD finished in Under 5 Minutes.

by **aviationwiz** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:57 pm

I have the speed hack for Nero enabled, and for those intrested, the drive starts at 6x and then accelerates all the way to 8x by around 20% into the disk.

by **Ian** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:11 pm

aviationwiz wrote:I have the speed hack for Nero enabled, and for those intrested, the drive starts at 6x and then accelerates all the way to 8x by around 20% into the disk.

You can probably graph it using CD Speed 2.02

by **Byrus** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:16 pm

Anyone try Dvd X Copy or Express to see if 8x is possible?

by **aviationwiz** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:25 pm

Ian wrote:
aviationwiz wrote:I have the speed hack for Nero enabled, and for those intrested, the drive starts at 6x and then accelerates all the way to 8x by around 20% into the disk.

You can probably graph it using CD Speed 2.02

I get this error:

Sorry, error message no longer on server.

by **VEFF** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 9:59 pm

by **cfitz** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:59 pm

Ian wrote:I killed too many brain cells over the Labor Day weekend.

Ah! I understand. It isn't Labor Day if you don't...

cfitz

by **VEFF** on Sun Sep 07, 2003 11:18 pm

cfitz wrote:
Ian wrote:I killed too many brain cells over the Labor Day weekend.

Ah! I understand. It isn't Labor Day if you don't...

cfitz

It takes a lot of 'labor' to lift a keg, drive to the store to buy alcoholic beverages or to lift a drink in your hand...

by **hoxlund** on Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:29 am

ohhhh you 21+ year olds like to rub it in, i turn 21 this next june

by **NoLimit** on Mon Sep 08, 2003 6:02 am

Guys!
i have my drive for 5 days now and im not able to do any 8x burn.
where do you get this media capable of 8X burning from?

i cant find any good dvd+r media in the market here.(Dubai,UAE)
can someone recommend a site (low cost!!) that will do international shipping?

by **OC-Freak** on Mon Sep 08, 2003 6:17 am

aviationwiz: tried scanning your discs at maximum speed and not 8X? May make a difference....

by **VEFF** on Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:00 am

I finally did a full disc 4.35 GB (out of 4.37 GB max).
Total burn time was only 8 mins 12 secs with lead-in and lead-out.

by **DrFox** on Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:17 pm

Hi,

Did anybody try the following media with PX-708A?

Optodisc (OR470-000-011-42m) 1x - 4x 4.7GB DVD-R
PioData 4X DVD-R 4.7GB Blank Media (Made by Pioneer OEM)

I understand that it is cheap media, but that's exactly why I am interested in it. :wink:

by **hoxlund** on Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:29 pm

if cheap is there thing, get these:

http://www.yesbuy.net/pr4dv51.html

with shipping they cost $1.09 per disc

by **tazdevl** on Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:27 pm

Well got mine up and running, taking less than 8 mins to burn a full disc.

So far, tried...

TDK 4X +R
Ritek 4X +R

Both burn @ 8X.

Also, tried out some Memorex 4X +RW, 708 writes fine @ 4X, no compatibility issues.

Only thing that I've noticed, the buffer seems to fluctuate a lot more than with my 510.

I'd also bet there's a memory hole or two floating around with Nero. I think I'm going back to 5. Just too bloated and the app seems unresponsive.

*Edit - everything looks fine. Contacted Plextor support and one thing I'll have to say is that they're responsive. On the other hand, pretty arrogant. Same kind of attitude as Apple... there can be nothing wrong with our product.

by **hoxlund** on Wed Sep 10, 2003 4:18 am

yeah thats pretty nice on the dru-510a, never goes below 97% buffer

by **VEFF** on Wed Sep 10, 2003 10:26 am

I haven't had any issues with Nero 6.0.0.11.
It opens fast, and I never have any problems.

If it matters, my systemspecs are:
AMD XP 2600+
FIC mobo that came with the PC
768 MB DDR RAM
40 GB 7200 RPM on Promise Ultra 100 TX2
60 GB 7200 RPM (same controller as other HD)
Various burners and a 16X DVD-ROM, inc PX-708A, printer, scanner.

However, Roxio Easy CD/DVD (not the bundled one) 6 hangs on startup.
It hung before I installed the 708A, so that isn't the problem.
It used to work better, but I haven't bothered to play with it, since I am happy with Stomp and Nero.
I have had various problems with Adaptec/Roxio products on and off for a long time.
I don't know why it is the ONLY burning app that I have had so many problems with...

I'll probably just stick with Nero and Stomp for most of my DVD burning needs.
I still have my other programs for CD burning needs.

by **brentsg** on Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:43 pm

tazdevl wrote:*Edit - everything looks fine. Contacted Plextor support and one thing I'll have to say is that they're responsive. On the other hand, pretty arrogant. Same kind of attitude as Apple... there can be nothing wrong with our product.

I was impressed when I used Plextor support. I called them about a problem on an ancient burner. Since it wasn't really worth sending to Plextor for repair, the tech support guy walked me through taking the drive apart and fixing the problem myself. Most excellent support.

B

by **aviationwiz** on Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:36 pm

OC-Freak wrote:aviationwiz: tried scanning your discs at maximum speed and not 8X? May make a difference....

My disks still look really good at Max.

Fuji (TY) 4x DVD-R:

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