Media Compatibility With CD-RW Drives - Which Media Is Best?

by **cfitz** on Fri Apr 18, 2003 5:04 am

I just got a new batch of TDK, and in checking to see whether or not someone had already posted results for them on the LTR-48246S, I find to my disbelief that no one has posted any Fuji/TY results for this drive. Allow me to rectify that and add a few more:

LiteOn LTR-48246S SS0C

Code: Select all: ........................Fuji/TY 80min 24X.......................40X ........................Fuji/TY 80min 48X.......................48X ........................Maxell/RTK 80min 40X....................48X ........................TDK/RTK 80min 48X.......................48X

cfitz

by **TheWizard** on Fri Apr 18, 2003 6:37 am

No Fuji results for the LTR-48246S, no, we definitely cannot stand for that!

Thanks for the update, cfitz. :wink:

by **Bhairav** on Fri Apr 18, 2003 6:50 am

cfitz,which 48246S firmware do you think is best for those Imation/CMC media you posted about on pg 15? SS0B or C? The reason I ask is that it is pretty tough to get any decent media in India (the best would be 32X Verbatim DLPs... made in Singapore

), and these Imations are available in large numbers here.
Thanks
Bhairav

by **cfitz** on Fri Apr 18, 2003 12:47 pm

bhairavp wrote:cfitz,which 48246S firmware do you think is best for those Imation/CMC media you posted about on pg 15? SS0B or C?

I get equally good results for both, as I would hope. Granted, one can't guarantee that an upgrade won't break something that already works well, but one can expect that progess will generally be in the forward direction. :wink:

cfitz

by **Bhairav** on Sat Apr 19, 2003 5:42 am

Thanks for your prompt reply,cfitz, ! I bought 30 of those Imations today, so let's see if they play as well as yours did with my 48246.

by **jedimc** on Sun Apr 20, 2003 10:54 pm

this is what i have used so far on my LG 8520B firmware 1.04

Imation 48x = 40x
manufactured by CMC Magnetics
Verbatim 48x = 52x
manufactured by Mitsubishi
TDK 48x = 52x
manufactured by Ritek
DataStream 48x = 48x
manufactured by Prodisk
Imation CD-RW 10x = 10x
manufactured by CMC Magnetics
GAT 40x = 40x
manufactured by unkown

I will have to test some more cds soon, keep looking as i will update this
this is really a great forum.

by **TheWizard** on Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:49 am

Thanks jedimc, a couple things...

1. All of your results were tested using Nero/CD Speed ScanDisc?
2. Who manufactures the TDK and DataStream CD's you used?

by **jedimc** on Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:22 am

TheWizard wrote:Thanks jedimc, a couple things...

1. All of your results were tested using Nero/CD Speed ScanDisc?
2. Who manufactures the TDK and DataStream CD's you used?

I got the results of the speeds from my burner, my burner automatically detects the optimum speed of the disks when you choose the speed to burn in nero.
After i burned i used nero cd speed and done scandisk to check them.

the TDK were manufactured by Ritek and the DataStream were made by Prodisc

by **TheWizard** on Wed Apr 23, 2003 7:07 am

Thanks, jedimc. It's a good thing I went back to look at your original post otherwise I would have missed your recent addition of the Imation CD-RW disc.

by **jedimc** on Wed Apr 23, 2003 10:45 pm

I will keep adding to that post but when I start using more cd-rs(w) i will make a new posts.

by **TheWizard** on Thu Apr 24, 2003 4:35 am

Yes please, if you add a new batch of results, please do make a new post as it becomes a pain in the butt to sift through old messages looking for changes. Thanks.

by **jedimc** on Thu Apr 24, 2003 6:53 am

Yep, sure

by **Bhairav** on Thu Apr 24, 2003 12:31 pm

Lite-On 52246S,6s0C
Media - ATIP: 97m 27s 28f
Disc Manufacturer: Princo Co.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

Selected 48X as burn speed, but at about the 52% mark, amber light flashed, and I think SmartBurn kicked in.Unfortunately, I hadn't enabled the "Show SingleRecorderSpeed " registry Dword :oops:

. No problems with the scan though, all blocks green.
In CDDoctor :

C1 min:0 max:10 avg 0.553
C2 min:0 max:0 avg:0.000

Nice media, and really cheap here in India with good availability.

by **Inertia** on Thu Apr 24, 2003 7:17 pm

I thought this would have been listed, but it wasn't.

Lite-On LTR-52246S......Maxell/RTK 80 min 40x....................52x
Firmware: 6S0D

I have gotten much better error results with firmware 6S0D compared to 6S0C.

by **jedimc** on Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:10 am

Just Tested
GAT 40x = 40x

Manufacturer : unknown
Code : 97m27s00f
Disc Type : CD-R
Usage : General
Recording Layer : Dye Type 0: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO)
Recording Speed : n/a
Capacity : 79:59.74
703 MB
Additional Capacity : n/a
Overburn Capacity : not tested

by **TheWizard** on Fri Apr 25, 2003 6:51 am

Thanks bhairavp, Inertia, and jedimc.

by **Inertia** on Fri Apr 25, 2003 4:20 pm

TheWizard,

I had only one line to report, but I managed to screw it up :roll:

(48x rating should have been 40x). I edited the post above. Here it is again:

Lite-On LTR-52246S......Maxell/RTK 80 min 40x....................52x
Firmware: 6S0D

Sorry. :oops:

by **dolphinius_rex** on Fri Apr 25, 2003 5:17 pm

Excellent news Inertia! I'll update my review on the Maxell 40x then

by **MediumRare** on Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:20 am

MediumRare wrote:I guess I'll have to try the Verbatim DataLife Pastels 32x (TY) at 48. They were super at the Smartburn limit (40x).

I just tried one (yellow in case it matters) with SmartBurn disabled. Add me to the list of TY-believers: ScanDisk all green, C1 ave/max = 0.05/7 !! And they're just 4 Euro/10 in slimpacks (that's a good price here).

Code: Select all: LiteOn LTR 48246S Firmware SS0B...........Verbatim DL Pastel/TY 80min 32X.........48X

This sort puts the utility of Smartburn in question- it wants to burn just about any CMC's at 48x (although the Mexico DataLife's are only OK at the rated 40X and those gawdawful Philips were rotten at any speed :evil:

) and restricts this media to 40x and the SKC's to 32x although they're just as good at 48x!

G

by **dolphinius_rex** on Sun Apr 27, 2003 6:07 pm

this should be reported to LiteON. Their Smartburn utility is an important part of many LiteON owner's burning habits!! :-?

by **TheWizard** on Mon Apr 28, 2003 1:05 am

Thanks one and all.

by **CDRnovice** on Wed May 14, 2003 1:19 pm

TheWizard wrote:Unless you want to record every disc at a very slow speed (e.g. 8X), which I recommend doing for audio discs ...

I've received advice elsewhere that audio CD-R discs should be burned at the speed recommended by the manufacturer (e.g., a CD-R disc labeled 48x should be burned at 48x, for best results). Yet, it seems you're saying an audio CD-R labeled 48x should be burned at 8x, for best results.

For best results, should audio CD-Rs be burned at the speed recommended by the disc manufacturer or the slowest speed allowed by the burner ... or somewhere in between? Can a definitive statement be made about this?

On a separate topic, I read a CD-R FAQ that stated the Manufacturer and Dye Type information on a disc can be completely bogus. The manufacturer info, for instance, could be wrong because the real manufacturer may have used a stamper from another disc manufacturer. In this situation, a manufacturer "identification" utility might report that the disc was manufactured by the supplier of the stamper rather than the real manufacturer. Is that the reason why people on this forum use the ATIP info to help identify the true manufacturer?

by **TheWizard** on Thu May 15, 2003 9:46 pm

There is nothing wrong with burning an audio disc at 48X. You can burn it and play it fine. I burn my audio discs at 8X because it is most compatible with even my oldest CD player. For example, anything burned over 12X has reading problems in my old portable CD player. So, for me, 8X works just right. Other people have burned audio discs at 48X and never had a single problem in any of their CD players. You can always do tests; burn an audio disc at different speeds and play them in all the CD players you have. See if any skipping, hissing, or popping occurs and you'll know whatever speed that disc was burned at is no good for your needs.

It is possible that a disc's identification is slightly fabricated. There have been reports that brand X discs are being made in brand Y's factory. I'd say normally a disc's identification is correct, but not always. There are exceptions to everything, aren't there?

by **CDRnovice** on Thu May 15, 2003 10:20 pm

Thanks for responding. That clarifies things.

by **Beiko** on Sat May 17, 2003 11:07 am

My first post, so bear with me-->I'm a CDR newbie :-?

CD Media was unbranded Lead data (not sure speed rating). Burned at 24x without out error (confirmed with Nero CD speed). I Couldn't get Nero or Easy cd creator to attempt a burn at higher speed.

From Nero info tool:

Disc Information (D:\)
-------------------
Type : Data CD (Mode 2)
Capacity : 73:17.51 (644 MB)
Tracks : 1
Sessions : 1
CD-R(W) Info : Lead Data, CD-R, 79:59.74

File System : ISO9660, Joliet
Title : 030512_2044
Date : 12 May 2003
Publisher : n/a
Application : EASY CD CREATOR 5.3 (010) COPYRIGHT (C) 1999-2003 ROXIO, INC.

This is with firmware 1.03. I usually don't upgrade firmware unless there is a very good reason for doing so. In this case has anybody seen what version 1.04 fixes/addresses? BTW If info is missing from this post let me know and I'll add it.

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