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Serious problem with Plextor drive.. *Please* help!

Postby ruler on Wed Nov 27, 2002 9:50 pm

Hi guys..

I have a plextor 24/10/40a drive for over one year now, and since day 1 it has given me a VERY annoying problem: I can't burn data right.

Weird thing is audio cds run *perfectly*, never lost a single cd, and so do ISO's... But whenever I wanna burn data cds (say, to backup my mp3s), 70% of the times the resulting disc will be unreadable.

The cd burns without any errors, but when I try to copy the whole contents of the recorded disc to the HD (using the cdr itself) the "Estimated Time Remaining" keeps getting higher, and most of the time I'm granted with an error before the end of the copying - backing up my data like that is totally unusable!

PLEASE guys, does anyone knows what could be causing this? I'm running windows xp, and I've tried both DMA and Pio modes. I've also tried using like a dozen different medias, and a lot of different programs (though I mostly use nero, I've also tried nti cd maker and cdrwin). I have the latest firmware installed.

Thanks for the attention guys.. ANY help will be greatly appreciated......

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Postby ruler on Wed Nov 27, 2002 11:45 pm

plextor just replied to my email, saying that I should try Easy CD Creator... heh. as if that would help! :(
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Postby Dan on Thu Nov 28, 2002 3:10 am

Is the burner and HD on the same cable in your IDE chain?

What's the setup? A little more info is needed.
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Postby ruler on Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:19 am

hey man.. thanks for the interest, i'm rather desperate.

i have 2 hds on my ide0 and only my cdr (as master) on the ide1.

mobo: asus a7a 266
cpu: athlon tb 1.33
ram: 512 pc 133
video: asus geforce 2 mx 400
+2 nic cards, 1 scsi controller + 1 scsi plextor drive (4x burn / 12x read)

i'm running windows xp (non sp1) here... and i use nero, cdrwin and nti cd maker
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Postby Dan on Fri Nov 29, 2002 12:36 pm

Do you run scandisk and defrag regularily?
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Postby Matt on Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:03 pm

What software are you using to record the CD? Also are you closing the sessions, are you burning at a speed higher than recommended, do you notice any buffer under runs occuring that might be causing burnproof to kick in during the burn?

Try lowering the speed to 4x to 8x and use DAO (Disk at Once) recording method which writes and closes the CD w/o any stuff that could confuse the reader.

Also are you reading them in the same drive or a diff CD-ROM?
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Postby ruler on Fri Nov 29, 2002 11:24 pm

hey guys..

i don't run defrag nor scandisk regularly, but i know that's not the cause (i don't do it because i don't need too, it'd be useless to defrag my disks to often cause i move around large chunks of data all the time).

and about recording speed.. i never do over 12x, when the media says it can go up to 24x or even 32x. i generally read the cds in this very cdr, but i've tried other drives too a few times, and in all tests but one they couldn't read it either.

i use nero, cdrwin and nti cd maker.. i burn cds for maaaaany years, i'm sure this issue isn't software related.

i talked with the guys from the plextor support team one more time, and someone really helpful said that, for all the experience he has, this can't be a hardware issue (since audio cds and iso's burn fine). he said it had to be media-related, and though i totally discarded this possibility at first i'm starting to consider it now.

to name a few, i tried tdk, maxell and sony. BUT, i bought them all from the very same store, by far the cheapest store in town.. so i was wondering that, maybe, they sell it this cheap because the media is somehow bad..... i dunno how this could be possible, but i don't find another explanation for this.

i checked plextor's website, and even though they recommend all those brands, the "codes" on my blanks are different, so i can't even say i tested "certified media".

what do you guys think? would a media issue be possible here, considering i tried so many different brands? (please notice that the problem is sporadic to begin with, happening like 60-70% of the time)...

sorry for the looooong text :)
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Postby Matt on Sat Nov 30, 2002 8:04 am

What modes are you burning the data in?
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Postby ruler on Sun Dec 01, 2002 2:54 am

that's an intelligent question.

i only burn audio and iso's in dao.

when it comes to data, though, i use to burn it in track at once, and leave the disc open.

but i'm pretty sure i tried burning data in dao too, without much success..
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Postby dodecahedron on Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:02 am

Matt wrote:What modes are you burning the data in?

yeah, i was thinking of asking the same thing! :wink:
ruler wrote:that's an intelligent question.

i thought so too... :wink:
well, try again burning your data in DAO.
moreover, and i think Matt also meant by his question, are you burning the data CD in Mode 1 or Mode 2? make sure it is Mode 1! more ECC info!
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