DRU-500A Verification Problems with Nero.

[xanra]

Has anyone done write verify's when burning DVD-R's in Nero?
I don't usaully do a verify, but i noticed some weirdness in a DVD-R that i burned, a whole bunch of files weren't able to be read off the newly burnt DVD-R. So i've been verifying every disc that i burn now. It turns out that every DVD-R that I burn is bad. It says something like 375 files identical... 73 files inaccessable.
This is after it says that it has successfully burned the DVD-R. This only happens with DVD-R's, I wrote and verified a SONY DVD+RW. I'm using TDK 2x DVD-R. Has this happened to anyone else? I hope people have tried verifying there discs, or else were all in for a big surprise.

i'm using:
nero 5.5.9.17
dru500a firmware 1.0d
TDK DVD-R
SONY DVD+RW

[BBWoof]

I'm having something of the same problem. My DRU500 seems to write just fine, but if I put the disk back in it, it reads a bunch of files as bad. If I put the DVD in my DVD-ROM it seems to read fine.

Also, VCDEasy now doesn't recognize my ASPI as valid, and I've installed the latest ASPI layer from adaptec.

I'm runnin WinXP Pro on a Athlon XP 2100

Wish I could figure this one out.


BB

[sonyman]

I don't know about solving your problem, but I may be of some help. First of all, Install ASPI 4.60. It can be found on Adaptec's site under the Windows 95 downloads section.

-Scott

[cfitz]

Hi Scott,

Maybe you could educate me here. I've heard rumors that many have had trouble with versions 4.7+ of ASPI and that version 4.60 works better for them. Is that why you are suggesting installation of 4.60? My concern is that BBWoof is running XP, while you are suggesting a Windows 95 download. On the download page ( http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/suppor ... aspi32.exe ) Adaptec states:

Do NOT install ASPI32.EXE with Windows 2000, Windows ME, Windows XP, Easy CD Creator 4.x, or with Windows Media Player 7.0. If you have one of these applications (or operating systems), you will be using a different aspi layer that will conflict with the one provided in this file.

Versions 4.70, 4.71 and 4.72 ( http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/suppor ... /ASPI-4.70 ) claim to be compatible with XP, although under XP they must be installed via a batch file rather than through the ASPIINST.EXE installation executable:

For Windows XP, select Start - Run from the menu, and then the Browse button. Locate the INSTALL.BAT file in the directory the files extracted to and select the OPEN button. In the command box, add a space and either XP32 for Pentium I/II/III/IV processors or XP64 for Itanium processors. The command should look like: c:\adaptec\aspi\install.bat XP32 or c:\adaptec\aspi\install.bat XP64. Then select the OK button to run the XP installer.

BBWoof, what exactly does aspichk.exe show when you run it?

cfitz

[sonyman]

That is correct cfitz. Many people are having major problems with Adaptecs 4.7* series ASPI drivers. I haven't had any issues with burning although one program I used couldn't even detect the 4.72 ASPI drivers. Some programs have a difficult time detecting the 4.72 drivers. The 4.60 drivers work fine with XP. The only problem I had was when I tried to revert back to 4.72 it wouldn't, so I simply manually deleted the 4.60 ASPI files and then reinstalled 4.72. It then worked fine. I installed 4.72 again because I wasn't having any problems with it (excluding the one flasher program) and I like to have the newest.

-Scott

[cfitz]

So this is one of those cases where it isn't the officially recommended configuration, but it actually works better than the officially recommended configuration? It wouldn't be the first time...

Thanks Scott.

cfitz

P.S. Here is a link to a page where ForceASPI can be found, in case the Adaptec 4.60 download doesn't work out:

http://www.cyrus.troy.btinternet.co.uk/downloads.htm

[sonyman]

Exactly. I do believe that 4.60 used to be used on XP, but when 4.7 was released, they removed 4.60 from the XP section and placed it in the one section in which it is the latest version, Windows 95.

-Scott

[xanra]

yeah, i'm using ASPI 4.71, but the nero InfoTool says my aspi configuration is installed and working properly. But i guess i should try to downgrade and test that.
Has everyone verified at least one of their DVR-R burns?
If never did a verify on my burn, i would have assumed that the burn worked fine.

[cfitz]

But i guess i should try to downgrade and test that.

You could do that, although I don't think it will help. Nero uses its own ASPI layer, so changing out the Adaptec layer shouldn't have any effect on Nero. I'm afraid we have somewhat hijacked your thread and are addressing BBWoof's ASPI issue. Sorry.

Anyway, xanra, what type of DVD's are you burning? And which of the files are bad?

BBWoof, even though VCDEasy doesn't recognize your ASPI layer as being valid, does VCDEasy (or, rather, CDRDAO within VCDEasy) work?

Xanra and BBWoof, what are you using to verify the files?

cfitz

[gianniz]

by any chance your using via hardware? like via chipset ... via chipset was renowned for corrupting data...

but i have only had few incidence where it failed with a04. it turned out to be shitty quality media.

[BBWoof]

I'm not using anything to verify. I've burned with both Nero and RecordNowMax, and burnt DVD's play fine in my standalone and my cheapy dvd-rom drive. But nothing reads in the SONY DRU500a.

And about CDRDAO, no, it wouldn't recognize the aspi when I had 4.7? installed. I used force aspi to reinstall 4.60, but it still doesn't read from the Sony. It's very irritating.

Should I maybe remove all the aspi dll files from my system and reinstall 4.60 from scratch.

I just completely wiped my system, and don't really want to do another complete install.

BB

[xanra]

I'm using Nero to verify the burn, right after the burn is complete.
It's one of those checkboxes in the burn window.
I'm not using a VIA chipset either... It's an intel chipset.
The thing that is so puzzling, is that this only happens with DVD-R's...
I have successfully burned and verified a DVD+RW.
Could it be that i just purchased a bad batch of DVD-R's?
They're not crappy DVD-Rs, they're TDK 2x.

[cfitz]

BBWoof, I want to make one thing clear - the ASPI problem doesn't have anything to do with being unable to read DVD-R discs you burned in the Sony DRU500. XP (the OS itself) doesn't use ASPI to read from optical drives. The only thing we are trying to clear up with the ASPI investigation is your VCDEasy problem. And I'm still a little unclear on exactly what happens when you start VCDEasy. On the main window, do you see just note 1 as shown below, or both notes 1 and note 2?



Also, please open up a command prompt window, type the following, hit return and post what you see:

Code: Select all

sc query aspi32

BBWoof and xanra, I am tempted to say you are having media issues. If I understand correctly, the DVD discs you burn are readable in other drives, but only partially readable or not readable at all in the Sony DRU500. Do you have any trouble reading pressed CD and DVD media in the DRU500? Have either of you checked the files on the suspect DVD discs using a file verification program like MD5summer ( http://www.md5summer.org/ ) or CDCheck ( http://www.elpros.si/CDCheck/ ) Xanra, you have just had problems with one type and brand of media. What about you, BBWoof? Finally, have both of you thoroughly read Veff's media compatibility thread?

cfitz

[VEFF]

Note that most new burning programs have ASPI drivers built-in.
Only one or two even require you to have ASPI installed on your machine
as a whole.

I have the drivers installed, since they don't hurt, but most new burning programs don't even use the machine ones.

[cfitz]

Only one or two even require you to have ASPI installed on your machine as a whole.

I have the drivers installed, since they don't hurt, but most new burning programs don't even use the machine ones.

CDRDAO (as incorporated into VCDEasy) is one such program that requires an external ASPI layer. However, as you and I have both reiterated, ASPI isn't the cause of the DVD reading problems being reported here.

The only reason ASPI got into this whole discussion is because BBWoof is reporting trouble with VCDEasy. In my last post I tried to clarify and separate the issues. Maybe BBWoof should spawn a new thread in a more appropriate forum (General Software Questions, perhaps?) for his VCDEasy problems. I will be happy to move my ASPI-related replies to that thread if he chooses to do so.

cfitz

[sonyman]

Note that most new burning programs have ASPI drivers built-in.
Only one or two even require you to have ASPI installed on your machine
as a whole.

I have the drivers installed, since they don't hurt, but most new burning programs don't even use the machine ones.

Some firmware flashing programs still do require that one has an external ASPI layer installed.

-Scott

[dogdivine]

Hi,

does anyone know how can't I see the sony dru 500a in nero....

I have a LG 40x12x40 and a Sony dru500a in my PC but when I go to select a recorder in Nero just give the LG how can't I put both?