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Intenso DVD+R DL 8x, Ricoh or Fake

Postby Gabe on Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:47 pm

Bought this media today in Media Markt (German)

Intenso DVD+R DL 8x (no Made in... printing)

Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R-DL:RICOHJPN-D01-067]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R DL] - [DVD+R DL]
Manufacturer Name : [Ricoh Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [RICOHJPN]
Media Type ID : [D01]
Product Revision : [067]
Blank Disc Capacity : [4,173,824 Sectors = 8.55 GB (7.96 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [2.4x , 3.3x-8x]


Intenso is also known for labeling Fake-media

I can read on the inner ring IFPI HAD01 or something similar
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Postby Ian on Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:59 pm

That sounds like the Playo media I had. The only markings on those discs was that IFPI on the ring. If I remember right, the MID's were fake too.
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Postby Scour on Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:49 pm

Anyone have scans of this media?
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Postby frank1 on Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:43 am

I bought these TDK branded DVD+R DL 8x also at MediaMarkt (Germany)
For these TDK does mention "Made in Taiwan " on the packaging

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These TDK have the same MID code as the Intenso ones:
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R-DL: RICOHJPN-D01-067 ]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R DL] - [DVD-ROM]
Manufacturer Name : [Ricoh Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [RICOHJPN]
Media Type ID : [D01]
Product Revision : [067]
Blank Disc Capacity : [4,173,824 Sectors = 8.55 GB (7.96 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [2.4x , 3.3x-8x]
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[ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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inner hub:
difficult to read because it is printed in black on both sides of the tansparent part of the hub
ON THE LABEL SIDE I can read something very long: K7102458DES02ETA701244G10436

outer hub:
on the label side: L10127G1030607
on the dye side: L00606G10125
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:25 am

The TDK ones seem to have a proper Ricoh stamper, but I can already tell from the picture that the inner hub serials do not match my Moser Baer made RICOHJPND01-067, but they *DO* seem to match Ritek's standard appearence. It's also possible that it belongs to Ricoh's own Japanese production, as I believe their serial system is similar to Ritek's.
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Postby frank1 on Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:06 pm

Thanks a lot dolphin !
I just bought a single one in a jewel case (3,79€) and it burned well at 4x in my Plextor PX-760A (firmware 1.06).

You can find them at the same shop in spindles of 10 for under 3 € a piece.
So I am going to buy a spindle soon just to see if they are the same as in jewel cases.


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Postby Gabe on Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:01 pm

Looks like my Intenso is fake media, and TDK is real Ricoh :-?
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Postby RJW on Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:56 am

Intenso = Probably UMEDISC
TDK= RItek (with ricoh stamper)
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Re: Intenso DVD+R DL 8x, Ricoh or Fake

Postby frank1 on Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:39 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:The TDK ones seem to have a proper Ricoh stamper, but I can already tell from the picture that the inner hub serials do not match my Moser Baer made RICOHJPND01-067, but they *DO* seem to match Ritek's standard appearence.
It's also possible that it belongs to Ricoh's own Japanese production, as I believe their serial system is similar to Ritek's.

I bought some Ricoh DVD+D DL:
« RICOH DVD+R Double Layer Rohlinge, Printable, 25er Spindel »
http://www.pearl.de/a-PX6099-1316.shtml

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They are Ricoh branded white printable and the the side label of my Ricoh branded spindle says:
« Made in Japan
EDP 79037 »

inner hub:
The inner hub is completeley different from the TDK ones
only on the dye side printed in "black dots" on the tansparent part of the hub:
RE33 07166 1044 500936
" " " " " " " 1042 300908 (other sample)

outer hub:
on the dye side: L00606G10105
So the stamper code ON THE DYE SIDE (the same for all the 25-spindle) is absolutly identical to the TDK branded ones !
So in both cases (for the TDK MIT and for the Ricoh MIJ) it seems to be a Ricoh stamper

From my knowlege I cannot tell you the japanese manufactuter of these Ricoh DLs
Maybe somebody has an idea ?
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Re: Intenso DVD+R DL 8x, Ricoh or Fake

Postby frank1 on Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:44 am

These Ricoh DVD+R DL 8x burn well in PX-760SA FW 1.07 @ 4x, especially the 2nd layer

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Because of the price of 1,20 € I may buy a lot of the special offer ("Sonderposten") they have at the PEARL shop.
It is only a short drive towards the german Black Forest from where I live
and the selling of Verbatim MKM-003 MIS (Singapore) is towards the end at MediaMarkt in Freiburg.
Now you fond mostly spindles of MII (India)
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Re: Intenso DVD+R DL 8x, Ricoh or Fake

Postby frank1 on Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:48 pm

Coming sometimes if you wish ...

The Sum8 and Sum1 scans these:
- RicohJPN-D01-067 MIJ (Japan)

compared to scans of:
- TDK branded +R DLs with the same MID code RicohJPN-D01-067
- Verbatim MKM-003 MIS (Singapore)
- Verbatim MKM-003 MIT (Taiwan)
- Verbatim MKM-003 MII (India)
and burned with the same burner (a Plextor PX-760SA FW 1.07 @ 4x)
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Re: Intenso DVD+R DL 8x, Ricoh or Fake

Postby frank1 on Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:03 pm

The same shop sells INTENSO DVD+R DL 8x for around 1 € a piece [compared to around 1,20 € for the Ricoh DLs]
« INTENSO DVD+R Rohlinge 8x Double Layer 8,5GB 10er Spindel »
http://www.pearl.de/a-PE5181-1316.shtml
« INTENSO DVD+R Rohlinge 8x Double Layer 8,5GB 50er Spindel »
http://www.pearl.de/a-PE5182-1316.shtml

I did bot but any, mainly because I noticed this thread at cdfreaks:
« Fake Ricoh DVD+R DL »
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f76/fake-ricoh ... dl-220845/
which gives all the following 15 brands as fakes in this RicohJPN-D01 code:

Datawrite
Emtec
Ridisc
Omega Freestyle
Windata
Cerebro
Titanum
Omega printable
Intenso
1TEK
SK
Elite
Aone
Mediarange
Tesco
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Re: Intenso DVD+R DL 8x, Ricoh or Fake

Postby frank1 on Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:23 am

Some of the scans published in the thread pointed above are horrible with PIE wawes like tsunamis and the TRT failing,
see:
« Fake Ricoh DVD+R DL »
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f76/fake-ricoh ... dl-220845/ http://club.cdfreaks.com/f76/fake-ricoh ... ost2140105


Among all the brands Intenso is nearly acceptable and Mediarange seems to be « second best »
Womi wrote:Pioneer DVR-216L 1.06, 7472MB burned at 4x
MID: RICOHJPN D01

No hub code
Stamper code: DVD+R DL L0 902-R (extremely hard to see, barely visible)
Made in China by UmeDisc

sold as 'Intenso DVD+R DL 8x' in 10pc cakebox

Flawless TRT included in the burn graph.
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Re: Intenso DVD+R DL 8x, Ricoh or Fake

Postby frank1 on Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:24 am

frank1 wrote:Coming sometimes if you wish ...

The Sum8 and Sum1 scans these:
- RicohJPN-D01-067 MIJ (Japan)

compared to scans of:
- TDK branded +R DLs with the same MID code RicohJPN-D01-067
- Verbatim MKM-003 MIS (Singapore)
- Verbatim MKM-003 MIT (Taiwan)
- Verbatim MKM-003 MII (India)
and burned with the same burner (a Plextor PX-760SA FW 1.07 @ 4x)
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