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Plextor PX 716 Official V1.04 Firmware

Postby Noua on Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:47 am

Once again, Plextor Japan has released a new firmware update. This time it's the efinal version of 1.04.

Here's the link:
http://plextor.jp/download/firmware/px716_104.exe
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Postby Noua on Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:56 am

Here's the change log:

Oh, I've used Google to do the translation... #-o

Future renewal contents:
* DVD-R correspondence to 6 time fast entry of DL.

Ver. 1.04

* Addition of the media which corresponds to 16 time fast entry of the DVD±R.
* It corresponds to 8 time fast media of the DVD+RW.
* DVD+R DL it corresponds to 6 time fast entry of the media.
* DVD-R DL it corresponds to 2 time fast entry of the media. *
* Entry efficiency of DVD±R improvement.
* Entry efficiency of AUTOSTRATEGY improvement.
* Reading efficiency improvement.

- Concerning the firmware correspondence of the AUTOSTRATEGY
When the ファ - the ムウェア is upgraded in version 1.04,
Because efficiency improvement of the AUTOSTRATEGY is assured,
It is in the tub of details setting of the Drive Setting of the Plextools Professional
At the time of setting the AUTOSTRATEGY,
As for the entry setting which is the AUTOSTRATEGY list up to of version 1.03,
Once deleting, we recommend the fact that you use.

* Concerning the correspondence of DVD-R DL entry
This firm is something before the formal standard, after the standard deciding, there are times when it becomes modification.

Here's the link:
http://plextor.jp/download/firmware/px716up.html
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:21 am

wow! didn't they JUST release the most recent Beta like a couple days ago? :o
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Postby Ian on Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:41 am

I wonder what reading improvements they made...
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Postby Ian on Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:54 pm

Plextor Europe is also on the ball this morning. Now where's Plextor America??...

http://www.plextor.be/technicalservices ... -Recorders

Added:
Support for newer 8X DVD+R media
Support for newer 16X DVD+R media
Support for newer 8X DVD-R media
Support for newer 16X DVD-R media
Support for newer 8X DVD+RW media
Support for newer DVD+R DL media
Support for newer DVD-R DL media
Support for 6X writing on DVD+R DL media

Improvements:
Write performance on CD-R media
Write performance on CD-RW media
Write performance on DVD+R media
Write performance on DVD-R media
Write performance on DVD+R DL media
Write performance on DVD+RW media
Write performance of AutoStrategy (12X writing is allowed on 16X media)
Write quality of AutoStrategy
Read performance of DVD media
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Postby alchip80 on Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:55 pm

Also added at Europe site

Notification:
- Only Sequential Writing Method is supported on DVD_R DL in firmware V1.04 (not Multisession).
- It is recommended to delete the strategies in the Auto Strategy Database
(using PlexTools Professional - Drive Settings - Advanced) before upgrading the firmware.
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Postby MadBurner on Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:58 pm

alchip80 wrote:It is recommended to delete the strategies in the Auto Strategy Database (using PlexTools Professional - Drive Settings - Advanced) before upgrading the firmware.


Always nice to read this AFTER the fact :o

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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:04 pm

alchip80 wrote:Also added at Europe site

Notification:
- Only Sequential Writing Method is supported on DVD_R DL in firmware V1.04 (not Multisession).
- It is recommended to delete the strategies in the Auto Strategy Database
(using PlexTools Professional - Drive Settings - Advanced) before upgrading the firmware.


So everytime you upgrade your firmware, you need to waste a bunch more discs getting your drive to burn them properly again?

Now *THAT'S* the Plextor promise of quality! :lol:
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Postby MadBurner on Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:06 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:So everytime you upgrade your firmware, you need to waste a bunch more discs getting your drive to burn them properly again?


I was just thinking the same thing :evil:

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Postby Ian on Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:16 pm

It's not that bad if Plextor adds support for them. Looking at the new supported media lists, a lot of the AutoStrategy media is now listed under supported. Ritek 8x -R media is still listed under the AutoStrategy list though.. not that I got it to work with firmware 1.03 though.
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Postby MadBurner on Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:30 pm

Ian wrote:Ritek 8x -R media is still listed under the AutoStrategy list though.. not that I got it to work with firmware 1.03 though.


I noticed that it was also listed under "Compatible DVD-R."

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Postby Noua on Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:24 pm

Ian wrote:...
Added:
Support for newer DVD-R DL media
...


This is what i like most in this upgrade. :^o Can someone please point me "newer" media for -R DL? #-o
As far as i can say, there is no final standard yet... [-o<
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:37 pm

Noua wrote:
Ian wrote:...
Added:
Support for newer DVD-R DL media
...


This is what i like most in this upgrade. :^o Can someone please point me "newer" media for -R DL? #-o
As far as i can say, there is no final standard yet... [-o<


That's easy! Now it supports Ritek DVD-R9 instead of ONLY Mitsubishi Chemicals DVD-R9 media :wink:

(that's a guess by the way)
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Postby Ian on Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:46 pm

MadBurner wrote:I noticed that it was also listed under "Compatible DVD-R."


Weird.. it could be due to the varying quality of Ritek's media.
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Postby MadBurner on Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:22 pm

Hopefully, it will get better results with ProdiscF01!

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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:36 pm

MadBurner wrote:Hopefully, it will get better results with ProdiscF01!

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I doubt that's possible... I don't know a single burner to get good results with the PRODISCF01 media I have. It's aweful stuff!
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Postby MadBurner on Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:48 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:I doubt that's possible... I don't know a single burner to get good results with the PRODISCF01 media I have. It's aweful stuff!


Well, after running some Q-Check TA Tests, the results are now "very good" as opposed to "bad" on this media.

I'll run some more tests...

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Postby Scour on Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:00 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:
MadBurner wrote:Hopefully, it will get better results with ProdiscF01!

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I doubt that's possible... I don't know a single burner to get good results with the PRODISCF01 media I have. It's aweful stuff!


F01? What´s that? I only know S0../R0...
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Postby MadBurner on Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:07 pm

Scour wrote:F01? What´s that? I only know S0../R0...


Dolph can fill you in on the technical specs but this media code is typically found on Memorex 8x DVD-Rs.

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Postby dolphinius_rex on Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:19 pm

Actually, "Dolph" will have to call in a few favours to get any info on the technical specs.

But I can tell you this:

Prodisc has 4 8x DVD-R codes currently. PRODISCS04, PRODISCF01, MCC 02RG20, and FUJIFILM03. Of the 4, I think PRODISCS04 works the best. Even Prodisc is aware of the flaws in their PRODISCF01 media. Last I heard, all Prodisc 8x DVD-R SHOULD be moving to MCC 02RG20 code soon, and the other three codes will be phased out.

Some people find the MCC 02RG20 code works really well, some people think it's the worst of the 4. Personally, I just don't like Prodisc, and have found the variations in their quality to be too big to warrant serious use.

I actually know a couple companies who are completely dropping their Prodisc media and picking up Optodisc to replace it, simply because they are sick of the problems caused by Prodisc's 4 8x DVD-R codes.

Also, as it stands, when you order Prodisc 8x DVD-Rs from Prodisc... you could get ANY of the codes, or a mixed shipment even! :o
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Postby Scour on Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:20 pm

MadBurner wrote:
Scour wrote:F01? What´s that? I only know S0../R0...


Dolph can fill you in on the technical specs but this media code is typically found on Memorex 8x DVD-Rs.

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Had only Memorerx DVD-R 4x, they are from CMC

Maybe in America Memorex uses other manufacturers
Benq DW 1640 and 1650 , Plextor PX-755, Pioneer BDR-208 and 209D, LG GH24NSC0, LG BH16NS40 and 16NS55, Liteon ihas 124F and 324F, Pioneer DVR-215 and S21, Samsung SH-224DB and 224GB, and some more

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Postby MadBurner on Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:34 pm

Dolph -

What has your experience been with ProdiscS04?

Thanks!
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Postby vinnie97 on Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:25 pm

Argh, ProdiscF01 is the stuff that I paid $40+ shipping for (and am waiting on a rebate for)with that recent PCConnection deal. :| I guess you're implying it's a bad idea to even backup data (mp3) on these? #-o I've done one burn on the 3500, and playback has been fine thus far. CD Speed doesn't find any errors, but I don't have the right hardware to complete a more extensive error test.
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Postby RJW on Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:12 am

dolphinius_rex wrote:Actually, "Dolph" will have to call in a few favours to get any info on the technical specs.
Even Prodisc is aware of the flaws in their PRODISCF01 media.

I'm not sure of that one. Infact there is info pointing to the opposite.
However the answer about codes seems to be more complicated I have a very good theory what's really going on. However at this point it's still partially unconfirmed.
Last I heard, all Prodisc 8x DVD-R SHOULD be moving to MCC 02RG20 code soon, and the other three codes will be phased out.

Hmm I have some doubts since it would mean Prodisc lost/looses a very big customer.
Some people find the MCC 02RG20 code works really well, some people think it's the worst of the 4. Personally, I just don't like Prodisc, and have found the variations in their quality to be too big to warrant serious use.

Maybe people are expecting to much ?
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Postby MediumRare on Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:49 pm

This may be of interest since the fw is officially out now.

There's a short note (just text, no scans) in the latest c't (3/05) about burning DL @6x (as also discussed here). The time drops to ca. 23 min from 28 (4x). The PX 716A with Fw 1.04 apparently showed good quality with Verbatim (MCC) media. The other drive they mentioned (Samsung TS-H552U, Fw US03) produced very high error levels @6x.

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