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Postby dodecahedron on Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:04 pm

what you need is an admin, not a mod.
anyway, what would you have him do ?
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Postby elec999 on Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:00 am

I dunno, try to chance the guy down.
I really dunno just lost $92 usd.
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Postby 1_smack_for_2 on Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:38 pm

This crook stole my money too, Will paypal refund me my money? I received a case closed statement with insuffient funds in the crooks account to pay me back. If you are looking at this you little filthy mexican scum, what goes around comes around...
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Postby TheWizard on Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:48 am

Chances are PayPal will not refund your money if the "crook's" account has insufficient funds. The only exception is if you paid a little extra upfront to purchase PayPal's Buyer Protection.

I was ripped off once by a guy on eBay, and I filed a case with PayPal. They couldn't recover anything because the seller's account had insufficient funds as well. The experience taught me a very important lesson: be extremely wary of who I buy products/services from.
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Postby elec999 on Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:04 pm

Paypal was only able to refund $0.60usd from $92usd.
What a rip, I cant believe I cant trust people anymore.
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Postby 1_smack_for_2 on Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:51 am

I filed a complaint through the FBI about the transaction through paypal and also contacted authorities in Texas... I have his contact information, provided it is correct. I'm coming for you!
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Postby elec999 on Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:41 am

I hope you get him, please let me know.
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Postby jmbrown12 on Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:16 pm

Anyone that was taken by this individual should file a complaint with the FBI. They will forward the information to the San Antonio authorities.
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Postby elec999 on Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:04 am

How do you complain to the fbi.
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Postby 1_smack_for_2 on Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:23 pm

Follow this Link: http://www.ic3.gov/
and click File a Complaint.

If you get an error try later.
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Postby cfitz on Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:13 pm

Google for djren12 and you will see that he has been ripping off people all over the place. Not just with this CD-R scam, but on Range Rover parts as well. Given the scope of his misdeeds, it wouldn't surprise me if the total take elevates his activities to felony level.

Maybe you victims should try to get together and pursue this as a group. That might get more action.

As for PayPal, their response to this and their other fraudulent activities leads me to consider them accessories in massive, world-wide fraud. They may not be perpetrating it directly, but they are profiting from it and, in my opinion, not taking sufficient action to prevent it or rectify it when it does happen. The FTC ought to crack down on them and force them to be more responsible.

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Postby elec999 on Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:53 pm

We should really go after this guy.
Any updates from the fbi report.
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Postby BuddhaTB on Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:55 pm

This post should already have been locked.
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Postby 1_smack_for_2 on Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:24 pm

BuddhaTB wrote:This post should already have been locked.

Why? I certainly want to know what happens with this situation.

btw, nice avatar.
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Postby Ian on Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:43 pm

Sorry, I'm just joining this discussion now..

I doubt the FBI will be able to track him down. Last year a guy ripped off a bunch of people on eBay. He was in the Army no less and after talking to the military police they basically said "too bad.. we're after terrorists".

Here's his info.. if it helps

djren12@aol.com
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Someone named jalicea77 also used IP 152.163.101.14

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Postby 1_smack_for_2 on Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:55 pm

Thanks Ian, I updated the IFCC Complaint with your info.
Thanks cfitz, should have done that before buying from this guy. He had a thread up at CDRinfo.com as well, http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/tm.asp?m=83176
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Postby Ian on Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:18 am

I would also take it up with AOL. They probably wouldn't like the fact that one of their customers was doing internet fraud.
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Postby 1_smack_for_2 on Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:14 pm

I suggest banning users from using AOL, bigfoot, excite, hotmail, and yahoo email accounts to post in the For Sale forums.

Alternatives are the following: gmail.com, college/university email accounts, email.com, mail.com, netscape.net.

AOL ISP and Email should seriously be banned.
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Postby aviationwiz on Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:06 am

What!? Ban people using AOL from posting in the Buy & Sell forum? I hate AOL too, but that's taking it too far!

Ban people using university email accounts!? That would make it really easy to track down an offender.
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Postby Ian on Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:13 am

aviationwiz wrote:Ban people using university email accounts!? That would make it really easy to track down an offender.


Yes, its' very easy. Us .edu people don't mess around with that sort of thing and we log everything...
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Postby dodecahedron on Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:31 am

the guy didn't say ban people using a university email account, just the opposite.
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Postby Bhairav on Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:48 am

Damn! I'm sorry for the guys that got ripped off :( . GUys, I think "1_smack_for_2"'s suggestion has merit. Allow .edu and .org/.net and non-commercial email addresses only. As a counter to that though, I think this is the only bad trader we have on CDRLabs.com, and narrowing the email addresses down to non-commercial ones only because of this one guy is overkill. Thoughts?
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