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New Firmware 1.03 for the PX-708A

Postby NoLimit on Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:28 am

new firmware for the PX-708A :



Fixed Bugs:
The PC may hang when writing and erasing are repeatedly carried out on DVD+RW media.
Some drives cannot mount the DVD-RW media that was formatted for the first time on PX-708A.
Improvements:
Write performance on DVD+R media.
Write performance on DVD-R media.
Write performance on DVD-RW media.
Support for newer DVD+R media.
Support for newer DVD+RW media.
Support for newer DVD-R media.
Support for newer DVD-RW media.
Support for newer High Speed CD-RW media.


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Postby vsekh on Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:51 am

Thanks for the link.

I'll download it and update my drive when I get home. Hopefully this will resolve the issues that a lot of people were having writing to DVD-R discs.
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Postby OC-Freak on Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:39 am

Alright, more testing and wasting of media for me..... ;)
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Postby wicked1 on Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:52 pm

finally! My plextor just sucessfully burnt a dvd-r :) I used the same beall media that wouldnt work before.Havent tried any other dvd-r yet with this firmware.
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Postby Impulse on Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:59 pm

Yeah, I've had nothing but success with this new firmware as well. Definitely an improvement as far as I'm concerned. I need to get some 4x DVD-R media to try that out, but I've been able to burn perfectly with 1.03 no matter what I throw at it.
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Postby tazdevl on Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:13 pm

Hmmmmm anyone notice that the buffer doesn't fluctuate much any more? Used to hop between 80-91% starting @ 20% of the burn. Now seems to pretty much stick @ 87% with both Nero 60011 and 60019.

Had one disc take forever (Memorex 4X +R) and another take under 8 for 4441MB.
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Postby Leven on Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:20 pm

Does anyone else hope that this burner will burn DVD-R at 8X by a firmware update?
It's not an impossible task, I think... The servomotors are fast enough, and the writing process could not be so different from 4X process...
What do you think? :wink:
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Postby tazdevl on Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:25 pm

Leven wrote:Does anyone else hope that this burner will burn DVD-R at 8X by a firmware update?
It's not an impossible task, I think... The servomotors are fast enough, and the writing process could not be so different from 4X process...
What do you think? :wink:


Not likely, the standard hasn't been worked out. 8X +R was on paper and some manufacturers were approved for production before the 708A hit the streets. 8X -R hasn't been finalized.
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Postby Leven on Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:55 pm

Even if there's no standard, could it be so different from 4X writing so that it needs extra hardware to write at 8X? Remember that 4X +R are written at 8X without nothing more...
Think I'm going to e-mail Plextor... :-?
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Postby tazdevl on Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:01 pm

Leven wrote:Even if there's no standard, could it be so different from 4X writing so that it needs extra hardware to write at 8X? Remember that 4X +R are written at 8X without nothing more...
Think I'm going to e-mail Plextor... :-?


You should do some research, there's a bit more to it than that.

Also folks have already emailed Plextor. Their policy is that they will not offer performance increases on their products via firmware updates. You'll just have to go buy a new drive. Wasting your time on the email.
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Postby Kennyshin on Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:25 pm

Leven wrote:Does anyone else hope that this burner will burn DVD-R at 8X by a firmware update?
It's not an impossible task, I think... The servomotors are fast enough, and the writing process could not be so different from 4X process...
What do you think? :wink:


Maybe you had better contact DVD Forum office in Tokyo. :D
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Postby OC-Freak on Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:28 pm

I found a small improvement: INFOSMART01 (infodisc) 4X DVD-R do now work :D

Still do not work:
Ritek G04 4X DVD-R (writes a coaster)
Princo 4X DVD-R (only some types)
Princo 2X DVD-RW (not detected or power calibration error depending on the type...I've 4 differrent princo 2X DVD-RW disc types here).

Still a bit work ;) But it's a small step in the right direction......
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Postby tazdevl on Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:55 pm

OC-Freak wrote:I found a small improvement: INFOSMART01 (infodisc) Still do not work:
Ritek G04 4X DVD-R (writes a coaster)
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It must be your media or version of Nero. I have never had an issue with G04 -R.
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Postby OC-Freak on Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:03 pm

I'll post an interesting picture for you all tomorrow of those ritek g04 coasters.....

I only have one riteg g04 media type available (datasafe), but they works in all other tested writers!
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Postby OC-Freak on Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:39 am

Image

You see that ring near the centre? actually that ring is 18% out on the disc as that is where the disc starts to be unreadable. So my conlcusion is ritek G04 ends up in coasters.

Yeah, plextor have also got this image, but I've never heared anything from them.....
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Postby VEFF on Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:00 pm

No slowdowns with Memorex and 1.03 yet - I have only burned two discs with one 708A and one with my other 708A since upgrading to 1.03...

In any case, I think it is the media and not the drive, since it was never designed or certified for 8X burning in the first place (rightly so, since it is
"4X" media).
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Postby tazdevl on Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:41 pm

OC-Freak wrote:You see that ring near the centre? actually that ring is 18% out on the disc as that is where the disc starts to be unreadable. So my conlcusion is ritek G04 ends up in coasters.

Yeah, plextor have also got this image, but I've never heared anything from them.....


OC, here's something interesting for you to ponder. On all my (Mem, TDK,.Verbatim) 4X +R discs... the buffer begins to fluctuate wildly @ 18%, every time. Things that make you go hmmmmm. Nero or the drive?
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Postby bobmitchell on Wed Oct 22, 2003 1:54 pm

Funny...

Since upgrading to 1.03...my buffer is locked at 85% during the entire burn from 6X (up to 18%) and then 8x for the remainder of the burn. Used to fluctuate from 93 to 87 to 84...back and forth. New firmware seems to have stabilized the buffer.

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Postby OC-Freak on Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:47 pm

tazdevl: hummm, this is getting strange!!! I tried the create data disc option in nero cd-speed with these discs and now the writing FAILED (yes stopped) at 18%. Tried again in Nero, now it did not fail but there is an unreadable area at 18%

Guess px-708A + ritek g04 = not good.........
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Postby aviationwiz on Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:56 pm

I burned to my TY 4x DVD-R last night just fine with 1.03. Has been fine with 1.0, 1.01, 1.02, and 1.03. Haven't tried at 8x yet with 1.03.
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Postby CDRecorder on Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:16 pm

tazdevl wrote:On all my (Mem, TDK,.Verbatim) 4X +R discs... the buffer begins to fluctuate wildly @ 18%, every time. Things that make you go hmmmmm. Nero or the drive?


Is this happening with discs other than +R?
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Postby tazdevl on Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:26 pm

CDRecorder wrote:
tazdevl wrote:On all my (Mem, TDK,.Verbatim) 4X +R discs... the buffer begins to fluctuate wildly @ 18%, every time. Things that make you go hmmmmm. Nero or the drive?


Is this happening with discs other than +R?


Nope just +R. Everything else is fine.
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Postby matibaer on Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:20 am

Hallo together,

please have a look to this thread :
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=13175

What is better...

- PX708A Firmware 1.02 or 1.03

- Nero 5.5.10.42, Nero 5.5.10.45, Nero 5.5.10.54 or 6.0.0.19 ?
(Nero-charts ?!)


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