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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:00 am

I believe that I may have encountered the first form of DVD copy protection to stump DVD Decrypter...although in all fairness, I am the second person to run into the problem.

Has anyone had any luck making "proper" 1:1 copies of either the Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, or Volume 1 of the Simpsons 3rd Season DVD set? If so, please list your DVD-ROM/DVD-Writer, firmware, and software involved.

For my part, any copies I've made of the Simpsons 3rd seasons DVDs have resulted in a DVD which will play fine up until you try to load up an actual episode, and then after that, it hits me with an improper region code screen, which is crazy since the region coding was ripped out by the seems by DVD Decrypter (supposedly) and I also had anti-region software resident...

To be honest, if this *IS* a new form of copy protection, I'll be a little more concerned about the fact that nobody knew about it before hand, then the fact that it is actually working! :o
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Postby sqlb on Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:40 am

Had no problem copy Lod of the Rings Two Towers using DVDDecrypter (File Mode) , Instant Copy 8 using Plextor 708A and Pioneer DVD-106.
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Postby rdgrimes on Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:58 am

Copied Two Towers using DVDShrink 3.0 and Nero. That's the 2-disc version, not the 4-disc edition. The results were excellent at about 50% compression.
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Postby aviationwiz on Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:13 pm

If there were a new DVD Copy Protection system in the DVD's, then I don't think it would play in current DVD players, since they need the code to unscramble the CSS.
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Postby tazdevl on Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:31 pm

rdgrimes wrote:Copied Two Towers using DVDShrink 3.0 and Nero. That's the 2-disc version, not the 4-disc edition. The results were excellent at about 50% compression.


Same. Also what Aviation said is very true. Need to update every single DVD player on the planet. Don't think that'll work.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:40 pm

No, there would be no need to update DVD players. You're only thinking of CSS and not other forms of protection. What makes you think the EFM encoding doens't play a part in DVDs as well as CDs?

in fact, I know for certain that this style of protection has ben worked on, but it was supposed to come out next year, not this year! :evil:
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Postby Dartman on Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:42 am

I believe I used Nereo recode and any DVD with my copy and it worked. They keep updating anydvd so it seems to evolve as they find ones that don't.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:00 am

I think the makers of DVD Decrypter are aware of the problem, as almost immediatly after I spoke with a few people and made a few posts, a new version was announced to be in the making! :D
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Postby tazdevl on Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:19 pm

Either that or it's something as simple as you just got a bad disc. I for the life of me, can't back up Minority Report, but other people have had great success with it. Is that copy protection? Nope.

EFM could impact older DVD players, so I'm somewhat skeptical of that. Bottom line though, as they come up with copy protections, they have to ensure compatibility with the installed base. Lot of people have DVD players that are 3+ years old. Tech has changed a bit since then.
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