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Lite-On 411S - 2 different firmware variants?

Postby Bhairav on Mon Oct 27, 2003 11:40 am

Hey guys, I'm having a discussion with OC-Freak @ cdfreaks. Apparently there are 2 variants of the original FS02 firmware for the 411 in circulation.One of them has -R/RW media codes in addition to the +R/RW codes and the other has only the original +R/RW media codes. OC is looking into this.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php ... adid=77955
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Postby RJW on Mon Oct 27, 2003 12:09 pm

Looks like Lite On really doesn't know what there doing if this is true.
This might however explain some of the problems.
If this is true then there quality controle really seems to be on Holiday something I allready thought after a lot of Lite On drives seem to die in my neighbourhood lately.
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Postby Bhairav on Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:12 pm

Yeah, I agree. They really seem to be asleep on this one. If it is true, it would probably explain why so many people seem to have the drive working well, and an equal amount find the drive messed up.
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Postby RJW on Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:17 pm

If this is true then I really will think even more then twice for buying anything from them.
THink about it.
If we wouldn't use the tools which Lite On doesn't want then we still would have a problem. It is just thanks to some people at cdfreaks and to Karr Wang that we can fix this. They should give mister Wang some credit for helping on fixing one of there compannies bigest mistakes.
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Postby dhc014 on Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:27 pm

I don't think it's really true. The media ID's just get left out of the dump or something. It's nothing to get worked up over until we understand it better.
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Postby rdgrimes on Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:25 pm

You can read into this anything you want, but so far nobody has shown that there's any problem that affects the drives. It's interesting, and worth a closer look, but that's all.
Some people seem to be looking for reasons to scream "LiteOn Sucks", without knowing all the facts. Relax about it.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:51 pm

rdgrimes wrote:You can read into this anything you want, but so far nobody has shown that there's any problem that affects the drives. It's interesting, and worth a closer look, but that's all.
Some people seem to be looking for reasons to scream "LiteOn Sucks", without knowing all the facts. Relax about it.


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Postby dodecahedron on Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:55 pm

dolphinius_rex wrote:Where's Aviationwiz?

LOL :lol:

there was, once upon a time, a guy here who was called LiteOn Sucks. what an obnoxious character he was...got banned pretty quickly.

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7390
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7476
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7492
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7511
http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7515

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Postby integspec on Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:59 pm

Guys,

Liteon has released new firmware for 411. Here's the link below:
http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/webfw/LDW-411S/DR4FS07.zip

Now all of us can sync our drives with this. I did this update on my 411 and it went without any issues. Thanks to Ian for this newspiece, I had checked Liteon site countless times for this release and gave up sometime ago!

Btw, I can only imagine that whereever "Liteonsucks" is, he is putting his meat to good use :-) ROTFL...

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Postby rdgrimes on Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:12 am

There's also an unofficial release of FS0B, posted HERE
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Postby aviationwiz on Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:22 am

dodecahedron wrote:
dolphinius_rex wrote:Where's Aviationwiz?

LOL :lol:
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I'm here, just haven't really been watching this thread. Lite-On being screwed up is nothing new to any of us. Thier support is terrible, drives in my opinion aren't very good, but please, let's put that aside for now.

That guy LiteOn Sucks, very wierd person, just seems purely biased against Lite-On, I am not biased at all against or for Lite-On. At the time I liked Lite-On too by the way (scary thought) *aviationwiz shudders*

If this is true, then they really aren't any good, I mean, the only reason why I remotely would recomend them is because of KProbe, which they don't like.

How can you even have a dual format burner, without putting into the firmware a media list for one of the formats. Very odd stuff.
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Postby dolphinius_rex on Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:56 am

I'm a little cheesed off that a new firmware still hasn't come out for the LiteON 401s... I hope this doesn't mean that they have dropped all support for it now that the 411s is out! :evil:
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Postby CDRecorder on Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:22 am

dodecahedron wrote:there was, once upon a time, a guy here who was called LiteOn Sucks. what an obnoxious character he was...got banned pretty quickly.


Yeah, I remember reading that guy's posts and being surprised at how much trouble he caused. I'm glad that we don't have people like that around here very often.
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Postby Kennyshin on Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:17 pm

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Postby subbass on Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:18 am

what is the FSOB firmware ?
I'm finding the LDW411S complete crud for reading DVD-R whether it burnt the disk or friends did on their burners.. does it improve DVD-R reading/burning or whatever. Is it official or hacked ?

I've upgraded to the FS07 from Liteon is did nothing more for me to improve things. If the FSOB one is a hacked one, can I then reflash back to FS07 if needs be ?

Thanks, I've tried looking for info on the FSOB and see nothing decribing what it is or does on any forum I located.
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Postby dhc014 on Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:37 am

FS0B is a leaked firmware. It was probably sent to OEM's and hardware distributors (like Gatecom where the firmware came from) for testing, or for distribution to their customers. It is not an official firmware for Retail Lite-ON drives though it works for them without problems.
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Postby subbass on Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:44 am

Thanks for the reply.

Well if it isn't a miracle cure for reading dvd-r then the drive is being returned, its pointless keeping the unit when I can't read disks anyone else burns, that is assuming I find a disk I can wite and then read on it myself.

Liteon should be shot for releasing a unit that cannot read dvd-r that even it burnt.
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Postby kennyrocks on Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:12 pm

I bought the 401S..ran good but some problems with some media i bought,So I took it back to WallMart...Ran over to WorstBuy and picked up a Plex 708..lovin every min of it. :D
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Postby aviationwiz on Sat Nov 01, 2003 8:27 pm

kennyrocks wrote:I bought the 401S..ran good but some problems with some media i bought,So I took it back to WallMart...Ran over to WorstBuy and picked up a Plex 708..lovin every min of it. :D


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Postby Kennyshin on Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:54 pm

dhc014 wrote:FS0B is a leaked firmware. It was probably sent to OEM's and hardware distributors (like Gatecom where the firmware came from) for testing, or for distribution to their customers. It is not an official firmware for Retail Lite-ON drives though it works for them without problems.


Gatecom's official website is http://www.liteon.co.kr (if anyone's interested). Another company runs http://www.liteonit.co.kr site. They sometimes leak some things coming from Lite-On IT, Taiwan. I have no public or private affiliation with them. Anyway, FS0B is now officially listed.
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